dagon is worst item in game

[Quake Nukem]

it literally is just purely there for cheese it allows low skill players to buy an item to get ez kill steals and feel good about themselves. Look at Nyx for example a good hero is a bad hero because the number one item players want on hero is Dagon for quick ez nuke kills. The item should be removed from ranked play imo or increased recipe price by good amount to balance it out. There shouldn't be so many heroes rushing dagons in pubs especially in ranked.

Also yes of course you can get bkb you can get linkens i know these things but, that doesn't really matter in this case the item is and has been for way too long a super cheese dmg nuke item that for a good amount of heroes can be very super quick cheese kills which imo is really not what Dota should be. There shouldn't be an item like that in ranked maybe keep it in unranked or arcade or turbo but, ranked nah. Or really increase the overall price of the item make it be a late game item not a quick rush 2nd item.

[Weird Grim]

Dagon is fine, it gives poor stats and a bit of magic lifesteal it is also the most expensive item in dota, so this ain't a quick rush item this investment almost the same as legion getting blink, blade mail and bkb (all those 3 items are just a 1000 gold more expensive then dagon), also the only ones that are active going for dagon are nyx and necro.

[Quake Nukem]

Originally posted by Weird Grim:

Dagon is fine, it gives poor stats and a bit of magic lifesteal it is also the most expensive item in dota, so this ain't a quick rush item this investment almost the same as legion getting blink, blade mail and bkb (all those 3 items are just a 1000 gold more expensive then dagon), also the only ones that are active going for dagon are nyx and necro.

idk it shouldn't be in ranked

[Dinsdale]

Originally posted by El Supremo ♥♥♥♥♥♥:

Originally posted by Weird Grim:

Dagon is fine, it gives poor stats and a bit of magic lifesteal it is also the most expensive item in dota, so this ain't a quick rush item this investment almost the same as legion getting blink, blade mail and bkb (all those 3 items are just a 1000 gold more expensive then dagon), also the only ones that are active going for dagon are nyx and necro.

idk it shouldn't be in ranked

Good thing you cant make those decisions

[HasHi]

[Deepbluediver]

Originally posted by El Supremo ♥♥♥♥♥♥:

idk it shouldn't be in ranked

There are items to replicate nearly any hero ability- movement, damage, CC, saving teammates, etc. I don't know how many people are rushing Dagon in your matches, but learn to compensate. Buy a Linkens, or something.

[Amogus]

If it could be used with any hero with high usefulness, then maybe more would agree

However, every item is strong against some and weak against others. For example, mana burn is very weak against heroes like bristleback and VERY strong against heroes like rubick or invoker who rely exclusively on mana to be useful

The same can be said with dagon where it can be really bad to be used against certain heroes especially if they are heroes that have built-in magic resistance or build items that give them magic resistance

[Amogus]

Originally posted by 76561198065706094:

Originally posted by El Supremo ♥♥♥♥♥♥:

idk it shouldn't be in ranked

There are items to replicate nearly any hero ability- movement, damage, CC, saving teammates, etc. I don't know how many people are rushing Dagon in your matches, but learn to compensate. Buy a Linkens, or something.

Just a pipe alone can give your teammates the ability to tank almost all of the damage from a dagon if they have the active barrier up

The next big problem is people dealing with a nyx and not prioritizing vision even though anyone who knows what abilities nyx has would understand vision is important

[Водитель]

Am I understanding this correctly. All this cry because someone's killing you with a dagon?
If it's so good, why it's being built by 3 heroes at most?
Item's win rate is 41%, it is TRASH.

[ʍolɟ ǝɥʇ ǝsɹǝʌǝɹ]

now that halberd is dispellable, its the worst.

Octarine and midas tie for the most popular items that grief games, because they don't help when you are behind

[ナルゴ]

I hope tinker's rearm gets reworked so that Dagon can finally get buffed without becoming broken on 1 hero.

[Water Ｖａｐｏｒ Merchant]

Originally posted by Deepbluediver:

Originally posted by El Supremo ♥♥♥♥♥♥:

idk it shouldn't be in ranked

There are items to replicate nearly any hero ability- movement, damage, CC, saving teammates, etc. I don't know how many people are rushing Dagon in your matches, but learn to compensate. Buy a Linkens, or something.

imo buying a basic Magic Hood will do you way more good than a Linken's against just a Dagon. Linken's is expensive and only decent on carries. Hood builds into a bunch of useful items better suited for supports

[Weird Grim]

Originally posted by Nargo:

I hope tinker's rearm gets reworked so that Dagon can finally get buffed without becoming broken on 1 hero.

Tinkers rearm is reworked, it no longer rearms items, but tinkers innate make it so ones he got 180 int all items got a 60% cooldown reduction aka a 6 sec cooldown on dagon.

[I love to watch noob chinese]

Originally posted by El Supremo ♥♥♥♥♥♥:

it literally is just purely there for cheese it allows low skill players to buy an item to get ez kill steals and feel good about themselves. Look at Nyx for example a good hero is a bad hero because the number one item players want on hero is Dagon for quick ez nuke kills. The item should be removed from ranked play imo or increased recipe price by good amount to balance it out. There shouldn't be so many heroes rushing dagons in pubs especially in ranked.

Also yes of course you can get bkb you can get linkens i know these things but, that doesn't really matter in this case the item is and has been for way too long a super cheese dmg nuke item that for a good amount of heroes can be very super quick cheese kills which imo is really not what Dota should be. There shouldn't be an item like that in ranked maybe keep it in unranked or arcade or turbo but, ranked nah. Or really increase the overall price of the item make it be a late game item not a quick rush 2nd item.

Well how else you going to get ahead with nyx? If you have no dagon, how are you going to get ahead and burst the other team down?

Its a situational hero and usually you get ahead by going a dagon build to then take out carries while farming, of supports but can't burst with your ulti and w alone. Hence dagon.

But yeah the TB armlet toggle with dagon, now thats a fking nightmare to have on your team... As a team mate.

[Sinner]

The recipe should be cheaper but item is good and alternative of orchid in terms of damage but if you need disable then go for orchid and bloodthorn

[Deepbluediver]

Honestly, who even builds Dagon any more besides Nyx? Necro used to, but the Aghs-Heart build is way more cheesy these days. And other Universal heroes tend to favor Skadi, Scepter, and Linkens.