Theorycraft: Exort midas Invoker position 1

[Rekovni]

Now before you say it's trash and it won't work let me remind you that you would have said the same to ana Io at TI who proceeded to win everything with it.

Please comment with an open mind.

With that out of the way I'll share with you my idea about pos 1 invoker.

Personally I've become interested in this idea after realizing that going exort with midas in mid is just too slow.

In terms of laning pos 1 invoker is pretty strong after lvl 2. The forge spirits armor melt can easily deal with melee pos 3 heroes you will face.. Any harrass can be shrugged off by putting points into quas.

Now the issue that I feel many will bring up is that it will be outscaled by traditional carries and this is the part i'm uncertain about. I think invoker has a great toolkit to deal with carries, especially deafening blast which cannot be dispelled. I've found that I can kill pretty most carries with hex and refresher. Alternatively you can coldsnap to pop their bkb and deafening blast them after to disarm them for 6.5 sec, enough time to kill any carry.

I would be interested to hear your thoughts

[Zagryzaec]

Do you know why Invoker goes mid?

[Fistraiser]

The reason why invoker goes mid and usualy midas is because he's bad at farming and bad at leveling.He's also trash late game when enemy buys bkb.
Playing him as a pos 1 sounds awful not to mention he'd get compeltly destroyed by the offlane.

[Rekovni]

Originally posted by Zagryzaec:

Do you know why Invoker goes mid?

Yes I understand it. More exp. I have over 1000 games on invoker.

The thing is exort invoker needs space. It can't run around and be fast paced like quas wex. It can almost do nothing except 1v1 some heroes until you get a bkb or if your team has chrono / ravage. If you play slow like exort in mid and your carry also farms then you will lose the game.

[Rekovni]

Originally posted by Fistraiser:

The reason why invoker goes mid and usualy midas is because he's bad at farming and bad at leveling.He's also trash late game when enemy buys bkb.
Playing him as a pos 1 sounds awful not to mention he'd get compeltly destroyed by the offlane.

He doesn't get destroyed by the offlane quas regen + tangos keep him in the lane and forge spirit dumps on melee offlaners.

[Chilli Dog Dave]

pos 2 maybe... maybe... but 1?
far to risky for its return.
io worked because not only can he force 2-3 v1 fights but his AoE spirits allow him to flash farm stacks and when he hits 25, io becomes a nightmare even as a support.

[Rekovni]

Originally posted by Chilli Dog Dave:

pos 2 maybe... maybe... but 1?
far to risky for its return.
io worked because not only can he force 2-3 v1 fights but his AoE spirits allow him to flash farm stacks and when he hits 25, io becomes a nightmare even as a support.

Yea I just mentioned the Io to illustrate the fact that untraditional heroes can be succesfull in the carry role because there are alot of naysayers out there who just disregard everything they don't know. Invoker pos 1 was done by VG for example but not many people know it and they just call it trash while VG is better than they will ever be.