Dota 2
₦Ɇ Aug 23, 2024 @ 5:57pm
DOTA is infected by boosting mafia
"The big problem is that the same teams are playing on multiple accounts, deliberately lowering your MMR to force people into buying MMR boosting services. Dota 2 is essentially dead; it's become a big business, and you're involved because you like the game. However, only the pros are getting any profit or enjoyment out of it. You're just a pawn to them, like me. They can boost or drop my rank whenever they want."
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Absche Aug 23, 2024 @ 10:32pm 
There is only a business if there is a demand. Boosting services offer the supply for the demand originating from the player base.
MVP_lCE™ Aug 23, 2024 @ 11:01pm 
All these MMR boosting mafias have been spotted or detected by the developer actually but they stay silent to avoid any party that may spread or share false information about any statement made.

That's why the developer rarely make any statement for any action they plan for countermeasure an issue.

Be more loyal & disciplined when playing a game could lead you with very satisfying gaming although you may face long defeats in your gaming life, that's how I experienced throughout my gaming life in Dota since 2004, and Dota 2 since 2011 as I can be very happy & satisfying with my clean actions.

However, many players intend with their black market moves which may return with bad consequences such as ban that can affective up to year 2038 or known as permanent ban already. Be proud with your green attitudes or Behaviour & Comm Scores because to me, both these are more important (prio) compared to MMR that bring not much of things to be proud with.

You may be proud of something but never be too high ego also because respects or honours never carry good ego. Those mafia is guiding no morality and discipline in gaming for the good pride. Always be a wise thinker.
₦Ɇ Aug 25, 2024 @ 4:01am 
Originally posted by Absche:
There is only a business if there is a demand. Boosting services offer the supply for the demand originating from the player base.


Je comprends ton argument sur l'offre et la demande, mais il est important de se rappeler que la simple existence d'une demande pour le boosting ne justifie en rien cette pratique. Dire qu'il est acceptable de fournir un service nuisible simplement parce qu'il est demandé revient à encourager des comportements destructeurs.

Le boosting ruine l'expérience de jeu pour ceux qui veulent progresser honnêtement. Quand des joueurs boostés atteignent des rangs qu'ils n'ont pas mérités, cela fausse le matchmaking, crée des déséquilibres et dégrade la qualité des parties. Cela nuit non seulement à ceux qui se retrouvent face à ces joueurs, mais aussi à l'intégrité des classements.

De plus, cette "mafia" du boosting utilise des techniques malveillantes pour cibler directement les joueurs qui refusent ou dénoncent ces méthodes. Ces comportements peuvent rendre l'expérience de jeu insupportable pour ceux qui cherchent simplement à jouer de manière équitable. Sur le long terme, c'est épuisant et cela décourage de nombreux joueurs honnêtes. Plutôt que de profiter à tous, ces pratiques nuisent à la communauté et dégradent l'environnement de jeu.
₦Ɇ Aug 25, 2024 @ 4:02am 
Originally posted by Onyx:
Originally posted by Absche:
There is only a business if there is a demand. Boosting services offer the supply for the demand originating from the player base.

sry i put in french ^^

I understand your point about supply and demand, but it's important to remember that just because there's demand for boosting doesn't make it justified. Saying it's acceptable to provide a harmful service simply because people want it is encouraging destructive behavior.

Boosting ruins the gaming experience for those who want to progress honestly. When boosted players reach ranks they haven't earned, it skews matchmaking, creates imbalances, and degrades the quality of matches. This harms not only those who face these players but also the integrity of the rankings.

Furthermore, this boosting "mafia" uses malicious tactics to directly target players who refuse or criticize these methods. These actions can make the gaming experience unbearable for those who simply want to play fairly. In the long term, it's exhausting and discourages many honest players. Instead of benefiting everyone, these practices harm the community and degrade the gaming environment.
bot Aug 25, 2024 @ 4:22am 
Originally posted by Absche:
There is only a business if there is a demand. Boosting services offer the supply for the demand originating from the player base.

It's only a proof that the system is rigged.
Boosters are using those rigs to rank up. (you rarely beat the *real* game, when you won, and a loss was intended).

But, boosters aren't even that numerous, they are an excuse. And people buying an account would only lose forever if the system wasn't rigged. They would buy it once, tell their friends: it's a scam, => no more buyers..

The real thing is worse :

- Simulation of players in your matchs, with and against you.
- matchmaking rigs,
- pick/ban random generation rigs,
- mecanics rig in-game if you insist too much.

Look at it in the eyes ; reality will win, and you have to obey gravity, as long as you have a mass, whatever you think.

for further pointers :
https://www.gamedeveloper.com/design/predatory-tactics-in-gaming-are-worse-than-you-think
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKtI40zABeM
etc..
Devilz Roger Aug 25, 2024 @ 4:35am 
Originally posted by Onyx:
"The big problem is that the same teams are playing on multiple accounts, deliberately lowering your MMR to force people into buying MMR boosting services. Dota 2 is essentially dead; it's become a big business, and you're involved because you like the game. However, only the pros are getting any profit or enjoyment out of it. You're just a pawn to them, like me. They can boost or drop my rank whenever they want."

ISLAM BOOSTER NOT MAFIA.... WATCH UR MOUTH.:lunar2019crylaughingpig:
let's assume for one second, for whatever reason, that you may be onto something here.
instead of crying, what are you planing to do about it?

you see, i visit Duisburg very often, for the variety of multicultural females it brings. then i can pay them some moni, and then do interesting stuff. whatever i want basically. for cheap gold. eh i mean euro.

you see what im saying is bro, demand is demand and someone is going to provide.
that's it.

this happens in soccer too, in basketball, in counter strike, in chess even (hans niemann anyone?), in every game you have shady business attaching itself to that game. because demand.

it's just what it is.

high level dota2? lol, like they not so bright people believe that it's run by honest people and everyone is trying their best, but they're all shady gangsters dude.

if you have a stream that has what 3000 viewers average, that's a free money ticket. so naturally these people "protect each other", called vetternwirtschaft. why do you think the same people from 15 years ago are still at the top of the game, like KHEZU, despite clearly being a bad player?

dude has what 12.000 mmr? Khezu? worst "pro" ive ever seen.
do you know what Khezu low skill pay to win boost boy does in his stream? play easy heroes like Phoenix, spam these heroes, then he loses. then he pays mmr boost to win mmr back up.

have 12.000 mmr = stream = viewers = free money

think of it as an investment really. having 12.000 mmr allows you to stream, then you get 500 viewers average, if you have interesting personality, which khezu certainly doesnt have the loser that he is, you get 3000 viewers like mason.

is mason any good? was he ever good? he's mediocore semi pro player thats printing money now. and he s looking to protect himself from others. these others are you and me. not part of the vetternwirtschaft that is going on.


it's all vetternwirtschaft my friend, a scam.
Last edited by Mikael "Koks" Keehl; Aug 25, 2024 @ 6:32am
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