Surrender Option

[76561198086489794]

Why not add surrender option after 15 min like smite , its not fair to endure 30 mins plus for a game that is lost from the first 10 min sometimes lost in the draft .also i think this will reduce toxicity all around as many players will rather surrender then stay and start ruining game or go afk farm or pick on the new players that you got matched with and lost you the game

[MVP_lCE™]

Nguyên văn bởi dont have money......:

Nguyên văn bởi MVP_ICE:

If you want to discuss about justice and fairness, then let's begin here. I will try the best to share what I understand about it. First of all, there is no bias(unfairness) judging from the game there because "boosting" a Dota 2 account without following the rules of the gaming is known as breaking the game rules where most of the achievements within that account are "fake" when the account it pass to different owner. Why did I say so? Rules are rules, and laws are laws. You want to stay in a country, then definitely you must follow the rules available or the laws of that country, right?
Remark: Be real or original is the best way to keep improving at the right way

Comparing the current situation and the location you are entering and staying which is the Dota 2 game, then you must follow the rules of the game also. If you do not want to follow the rules of the game, then you may quit. Nobody is being forced to play the game. One more similar thing is, if you enter and stay into this Dota 2 forum discussion, then you must follow the rules here also. If you break any rules here, then you deserve to be punished or receive the right action(s).

bro we talking about surrender because smurf and i did agree about add surrender button. whats wrong with it? because valve do nothing about smurfing from high ranked or pro player therefore just add surrender if there is detected tinker player like 50-0 and admit smurfing because wanna boosting low mmr account and offering some boosting services there to reach immo or certain mmr?????

Your previous comment when you questioned and said, "why try hard against booster. its not fair match" - From that line, based on my understanding of the word "against" means fighting or countermeasure. Plus, you said not fair for boosters, aren't you? - My question when I was replying to you was, "Why were you defending the booster?"

[mie aceh...]

Nguyên văn bởi MVP_ICE:

Nguyên văn bởi dont have money......:

bro we talking about surrender because smurf and i did agree about add surrender button. whats wrong with it? because valve do nothing about smurfing from high ranked or pro player therefore just add surrender if there is detected tinker player like 50-0 and admit smurfing because wanna boosting low mmr account and offering some boosting services there to reach immo or certain mmr?????

Your previous comment when you questioned and said, "why try hard against booster. its not fair match" - From that line, based on my understanding of the word "against" means fighting or countermeasure. Plus, you said not fair for boosters, aren't you? - My question when I was replying to you was, "Why were you defending the booster?"

bro it was reply to kagami... kagami wants player to keep playing even its not fair match or there is smurfer or boosters which are very strong. then i said why try hard against booster coz its not fair lets just surrender thats what i said lul...

[MovingTargetTez]

Surrendering = Rage Quit without punishment

[mie aceh...]

Nguyên văn bởi MovingTargetTez:

Surrendering = Rage Quit without punishment

it was voting u can deny it obv...

[no154370]

Nguyên văn bởi dont have money......:

Nguyên văn bởi MovingTargetTez:

Surrendering = Rage Quit without punishment

it was voting u can deny it obv...

Pointless

When majority vote ''yes''

Especially when 4 out of 5 vote ''yes'' to ''surrender''

[MovingTargetTez]

Nguyên văn bởi dont have money......:

it was voting u can deny it obv...

It would disrupt the game far too much. Especially with the amount of toxic people in this game.
Support takes a last hit = Surrender Vote
Missing hero not called = Surrender Vote
Etc...

Plus you need to look at the bigger picture, how do you plan to improve if you want to surrender the second the game starts going bad? What exactly are you going to learn by giving up?

[no154370]

Anyone who suggest ''surrender option'' for dota 2

Should go back and play LoL

[MVP_lCE™]

Nguyên văn bởi dont have money......:

Nguyên văn bởi MVP_ICE:

Your previous comment when you questioned and said, "why try hard against booster. its not fair match" - From that line, based on my understanding of the word "against" means fighting or countermeasure. Plus, you said not fair for boosters, aren't you? - My question when I was replying to you was, "Why were you defending the booster?"

bro it was reply to kagami... kagami wants player to keep playing even its not fair match or there is smurfer or boosters which are very strong. then i said why try hard against booster coz its not fair lets just surrender thats what i said lul...

I think we really have a misunderstanding there because when I was reading @Kagami's words, I can conclude that he highly supports long-duration of game matches instead of shorter-duration of game matches that could be abused by those boosters. FYI, when I was reading any comment, I always looked for any reasoning that could be supportive or against the point.

Well, when I read your words you replied, "yea" which can be your agreement that longer-duration game matching is better compared to shorter-duration game matches. The line "why try hard against booster" gave a different meaning to me actually when I read it because that showed you were questioning(defending words) about the necessary for longer duration of game matches which you supported with "yea" at the front, which means:
1. yea -> support longer game matches?
2. why try hard against booster -> support shorter game matches?
This shows the confusion that happened because I wasn't reading like your professional EN. TBH, whenever or whoever is "questioning" a statement, then it means defending wording is there for people around my region here. Any misunderstanding or confusion can be apology/sorry for this. TQ ~ hope these are clear & good speaking. :]

[no154370]

This match is a fine example of how opposite team takes 30 mins to take down the dire's team top lane 1st tower

https://www.opendota.com/matches/7691189431

https://www.opendota.com/matches/7691189431/story

With sand king abandon match after 10 mins of match, luna(who is me on my main account) hug tower and just farm at lane while spam lucent beam and prevent faceless void using ult on me

Some more, since i later on got aghanim's scepter, i can throw luna's ult on melee heroes

p.s my build for luna and dragon knight build ended up owning opposite team when it ended up as 3 vs 5

p.s this match is concrete evidence of ''winning opposite team by proper items build to counter enemy heroes''

[mie aceh...]

Nguyên văn bởi no154370:

Nguyên văn bởi dont have money......:

it was voting u can deny it obv...

Pointless

When majority vote ''yes''

Especially when 4 out of 5 vote ''yes'' to ''surrender''

so why??? if everyone want surrender why not? rather listen 1 stpd player whos non stop feeder like u...

[no154370]

Nguyên văn bởi no154370:

This match is a fine example of how opposite team takes 30 mins to take down the dire's team top lane 1st tower

https://www.opendota.com/matches/7691189431

https://www.opendota.com/matches/7691189431/story

With sand king abandon match after 10 mins of match, luna(who is me on my main account) hug tower and just farm at lane while spam lucent beam and prevent faceless void using ult on me

Some more, since i later on got aghanim's scepter, i can throw luna's ult on melee heroes

p.s my build for luna and dragon knight build ended up owning opposite team when it ended up as 3 vs 5

p.s this match is concrete evidence of ''winning opposite team by proper items build to counter enemy heroes''

This post of mine which i quote

Shows that ''comeback'' in dota 2 is possible

[Kagami]

Nguyên văn bởi dont have money......:

Nguyên văn bởi no154370:

Pointless

When majority vote ''yes''

Especially when 4 out of 5 vote ''yes'' to ''surrender''

so why??? if everyone want surrender why not? rather listen 1 stpd player whos non stop feeder like u...

Because thats exactly what a booster want. To enemy to surrender fast for him to get to next game and farm mmr faster.

If you support booster then you support surrender option.

[mie aceh...]

Nguyên văn bởi Kagami:

Nguyên văn bởi dont have money......:

so why??? if everyone want surrender why not? rather listen 1 stpd player whos non stop feeder like u...

Because thats exactly what a booster want. To enemy to surrender fast for him to get to next game and farm mmr faster.

If you support booster then you support surrender option.

so what if this was only 1 from 10 games

[Kagami]

Nguyên văn bởi dont have money......:

Nguyên văn bởi Kagami:

Because thats exactly what a booster want. To enemy to surrender fast for him to get to next game and farm mmr faster.

If you support booster then you support surrender option.

so what if this was only 1 from 10 games

If you want to play what if game. What if this game will still be great even without surrender option ? Because after a decade this game still going smooth till today.

[MovingTargetTez]

This is quickly turning into another "my opinion is all that matters" thread.