Surrender Option

[76561198086489794]

Why not add surrender option after 15 min like smite , its not fair to endure 30 mins plus for a game that is lost from the first 10 min sometimes lost in the draft .also i think this will reduce toxicity all around as many players will rather surrender then stay and start ruining game or go afk farm or pick on the new players that you got matched with and lost you the game

[Kagami]

Then all dota2 game will end in 15 minutes.

[MVP_lCE™]

Originally posted by Kagami:

Then all dota2 game will end in 15 minutes.

Surrender or a "GG call" can be logical if the majority voice is added as a secondary layer. If a "GG call" is made by one player, then it means that one player announces to act similarly as the game pauses. This calling will auto-pause the game while waiting for the next unlimited "resume" to be made. Another player(s) of the same team can show support for that calling by using a word or hotkey(show support while waiting for another call to resume). This is where the majority voice is made.
Remark: Surrender or "GG call" can be made for once only by each player

A "game pausing" can continuously run when a player makes his call for a pause.
Why a "game surrender" cannot be continuously run(for collection of majority voice) when a player makes his call? Meanwhile, when the game match has "game surrender" status, it should be paused to act similarly to "game pausing."

[76561198086489794]

Originally posted by MVP_ICE:

Originally posted by Kagami:

Then all dota2 game will end in 15 minutes.

Surrender or a "GG call" can be logical if the majority voice is added as a secondary layer. If a "GG call" is made by one player, then it means that one player announces to act similarly as the game pauses. This calling will auto-pause the game while waiting for the next unlimited "resume" to be made. Another player(s) of the same team can show support for that calling by using a word or hotkey(show support while waiting for another call to resume). This is where the majority voice is made.
Remark: Surrender or "GG call" can be made for once only by each player

A "game pausing" can continuously run when a player makes his call for a pause.
Why a "game surrender" cannot be continuously run(for collection of majority voice) when a player makes his call? Meanwhile, when the game match has "game surrender" status, it should be paused to act similarly to "game pausing."

make it a vote just like smite a game that you know is lost but you have to keep playing is the worst thing in dota and big reason for smurfing

[iBUYPOWER]

We are not developers. We are not game owner or shareholders We mean nothing to authorities just meat . Consumers .zombies

[Kagami]

Originally posted by salmnb:

Originally posted by MVP_ICE:

Surrender or a "GG call" can be logical if the majority voice is added as a secondary layer. If a "GG call" is made by one player, then it means that one player announces to act similarly as the game pauses. This calling will auto-pause the game while waiting for the next unlimited "resume" to be made. Another player(s) of the same team can show support for that calling by using a word or hotkey(show support while waiting for another call to resume). This is where the majority voice is made.
Remark: Surrender or "GG call" can be made for once only by each player

A "game pausing" can continuously run when a player makes his call for a pause.
Why a "game surrender" cannot be continuously run(for collection of majority voice) when a player makes his call? Meanwhile, when the game match has "game surrender" status, it should be paused to act similarly to "game pausing."

make it a vote just like smite a game that you know is lost but you have to keep playing is the worst thing in dota and big reason for smurfing

Do you know what i mean that all game will end in 15 minutes ? Because everybody will want to use it. It’s just the nature of dota2 players. They abuse it.

If you look at every new hero launch. Everybody either abuse it or ban it. Same with this surrender. but there are no balancing on this function while in new hero it can be nerfed.

So i hope you can understand there won’t be any surrender option. I’ve discuss this multiple times in developer forum and with Valve officials at TI singapore.

[MovingTargetTez]

Originally posted by salmnb:

make it a vote just like smite a game that you know is lost but you have to keep playing is the worst thing in dota and big reason for smurfing

Ahhhh so people smurf because they are not allowed to surrender..... not at all to play in order to reach a rank they believe they are.

Surrender feature exists. Play in a 5 stack and you can surrender after 30 minutes, nothing more to say on the matter.
This is how things are and it won't change all because a random limited account profile made a request in a community forum.

[nhlkoho]

I've come back many times from mega creeps. The enemy can always make a mistake that will turn the game

[MVP_lCE™]

Originally posted by salmnb:

Originally posted by MVP_ICE:

Surrender or a "GG call" can be logical if the majority voice is added as a secondary layer. If a "GG call" is made by one player, then it means that one player announces to act similarly as the game pauses. This calling will auto-pause the game while waiting for the next unlimited "resume" to be made. Another player(s) of the same team can show support for that calling by using a word or hotkey(show support while waiting for another call to resume). This is where the majority voice is made.
Remark: Surrender or "GG call" can be made for once only by each player

A "game pausing" can continuously run when a player makes his call for a pause.
Why a "game surrender" cannot be continuously run(for collection of majority voice) when a player makes his call? Meanwhile, when the game match has "game surrender" status, it should be paused to act similarly to "game pausing."

make it a vote just like smite a game that you know is lost but you have to keep playing is the worst thing in dota and big reason for smurfing

Voting means majority voices because any disconnected player can still be announced as no supporting because there is no voice from the disconnected player(s). Any player(s) who faces disconnection doesn't mean he is abandoning the game match, right? That can totally bring the logic where the server will act for him by saying "no voice" from the disconnected player. I am very curious, as to why there is "game pause" but "game surrender" cannot be made which goes by the majority voices. Where the logic had gone?

Originally posted by Kagami:

Originally posted by salmnb:

make it a vote just like smite a game that you know is lost but you have to keep playing is the worst thing in dota and big reason for smurfing

Do you know what i mean that all game will end in 15 minutes ? Because everybody will want to use it. It’s just the nature of dota2 players. They abuse it.

If you look at every new hero launch. Everybody either abuse it or ban it. Same with this surrender. but there are no balancing on this function while in new hero it can be nerfed.

So i hope you can understand there won’t be any surrender option. I’ve discuss this multiple times in developer forum and with Valve officials at TI singapore.

Why did you skip my comment? Do you read my comment?

Remark: Surrender or "GG call" can be made for once only by each player

You must understand that if "game pause" can be made in an unlimited way with a time gap, then the "GG call" must be available once there. That is the RIGHT of each player within the game. Otherwise, I can conclude that the developers are locking(jailing) the players within all the game matches! - This is the logic of majority voices based on a team, not two teams!

[Rhynn Player]

it will never happen because there is alot people that bause emptyy setrvers to boost elo*with double down)

[Cotoi]

Originally posted by salmnb:

Why not add surrender option after 15 min like smite , its not fair to endure 30 mins plus for a game that is lost from the first 10 min sometimes lost in the draft .also i think this will reduce toxicity all around as many players will rather surrender then stay and start ruining game or go afk farm or pick on the new players that you got matched with and lost you the game

becasue that would make the game less boring.
Just joking. it is becasue Dota is not a game, it is a tool to train real life social credit scor AI, and we are here not to have fun, but to train future totalitarian regime's AI.

[MovingTargetTez]

Originally posted by Cotoi:

becasue that would make the game less boring.
Just joking. it is becasue Dota is not a game, it is a tool to train real life social credit scor AI, and we are here not to have fun, but to train future totalitarian regime's AI.

Who hurt you?

[Kagami]

Originally posted by MVP_ICE:

Originally posted by salmnb:

make it a vote just like smite a game that you know is lost but you have to keep playing is the worst thing in dota and big reason for smurfing

Voting means majority voices because any disconnected player can still be announced as no supporting because there is no voice from the disconnected player(s). Any player(s) who faces disconnection doesn't mean he is abandoning the game match, right? That can totally bring the logic where the server will act for him by saying "no voice" from the disconnected player. I am very curious, as to why there is "game pause" but "game surrender" cannot be made which goes by the majority voices. Where the logic had gone?

Originally posted by Kagami:

Do you know what i mean that all game will end in 15 minutes ? Because everybody will want to use it. It’s just the nature of dota2 players. They abuse it.

If you look at every new hero launch. Everybody either abuse it or ban it. Same with this surrender. but there are no balancing on this function while in new hero it can be nerfed.

So i hope you can understand there won’t be any surrender option. I’ve discuss this multiple times in developer forum and with Valve officials at TI singapore.

Why did you skip my comment? Do you read my comment?

Remark: Surrender or "GG call" can be made for once only by each player

You must understand that if "game pause" can be made in an unlimited way with a time gap, then the "GG call" must be available once there. That is the RIGHT of each player within the game. Otherwise, I can conclude that the developers are locking(jailing) the players within all the game matches! - This is the logic of majority voices based on a team, not two teams!

Because you already answer it yourself here =
https://steamcommunity.com/app/570/discussions/0/3048357185553658205/#c3048357185553724980

I quote here

Originally posted by MVP_ICE:

I don't understand why people still die hard want this surrender feature. In a game (not only Dota 2), if you really want to surrender or stop playing, then you can just let your opponents or enemies to win you without defending yourself. Think logically, if you really want to surrender, then why don't just surrender? Even if surrender feature is implemented, then imagine you use it to surrender. What you can do if your other teammates don't want to surrender? You are just alone to surrender and you still need to face the penalty when you want to leave (abandon) the game.

1-GG, 4-VS : Try and imagine if you can press surrender as a player, but other 4 teammates don't want to surrender and want to continue to fight, do you think you can safely leave the game? No?

2-GG, 3-VS : Try and imagine if you can press surrender with another teammate, but other 3 teammates don't want to surrender and want to continue to fight, do you and partner can safely leave the game? No?

3 or more GG, 2-VS : Now, try and imagine if you and another 2 or more teammates already surrendering or don't want to defend, you 3/4/5 can ALL-CHAT tell the enemies to push now because in the developer already analyzed players game playing for enough and know that 2 players are impossible to defend against 5 players who are attempting to push till more than 5 minutes to win the game due to 3 players surrendering. If any of the 3 players is disturbing the pushing of the 5 players, then that is not called surrender already.

Important is, when officially surrendering, DO NOT DISTURB THE WORK OF PUSHER TO END THE GAME IN IMMEDIATE TIME.

[MVP_lCE™]

Originally posted by MovingTargetTez:

Originally posted by salmnb:

make it a vote just like smite a game that you know is lost but you have to keep playing is the worst thing in dota and big reason for smurfing

Ahhhh so people smurf because they are not allowed to surrender..... not at all to play in order to reach a rank they believe they are.

Surrender feature exists. Play in a 5 stack and you can surrender after 30 minutes, nothing more to say on the matter.
This is how things are and it won't change all because a random limited account profile made a request in a community forum.

A game surrender or "GG call" can still be improved. Show more opinions is better than denying the OP. Or you may share your curiosity by questioning any comment available. Thanks.

[MovingTargetTez]

Originally posted by MVP_ICE:

A game surrender or "GG call" can still be improved. Show more opinions is better than denying the OP. Or you may share your curiosity by questioning any comment available. Thanks.

It already exists and does not need to be improved.
The requirements to use the surrender feature are simple:
1. Play In a 4-5stack
2. Play for a minimum of 30 minutes
3. All accept the surrender.

I don't see how it can be improved upon, maybe shortening the time to 20 minutes...?

Other than that the game is not meant to be played in a "lets quit" mentality, you're playing to win and there are many ways a game can be turned around.....mostly the push to tier 3's.

People who have the quitter mentality should probably play a less competitive game if they're not prepared to try to win.

[Kagami]

Originally posted by MVP_ICE:

Originally posted by MovingTargetTez:

Ahhhh so people smurf because they are not allowed to surrender..... not at all to play in order to reach a rank they believe they are.

Surrender feature exists. Play in a 5 stack and you can surrender after 30 minutes, nothing more to say on the matter.
This is how things are and it won't change all because a random limited account profile made a request in a community forum.

A game surrender or "GG call" can still be improved. Show more opinions is better than denying the OP. Or you may share your curiosity by questioning any comment available. Thanks.

Thats because people learn that from you, denying the topic thread like you did in 2021.