This is what happens when you win too many games..

[Commend4Commed Report4Report]

If your on a win streak (lets say like a 8 game streak) the matchmaker will match you with lower skill trash players so that you will lose.

Is this actually how it works?

I didn't really think about until I saw someone with 7500/7500 wins to losses. That's a crazy amount of games to have such a dead even win/loss ratio. The matchmaker must be forcing winstreak players to lose in the way I explained to get numbers that even.

[Pyro Penguin]

no, what really happens is that the matchmaker is far from perfect (some might even say it's complete ♥♥♥♥ ), sometimes your team is just better, sometimes the other team is just better, and sometimes you get a streak going either way, the system isn't rigging games against you, it's just the rng of bad matchmaking

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Predictable patterns such as bad teammates vs good enemies in losing spree and good teammate vs bad enemies in winning sprees just happened to be RNG random

[Commend4Commed Report4Report]

I'm not convinced. The amount of players that have near 50-50 ratios is too high. Maybe its just the likelyhood that you get 4 trash teammates is exponentially higher after streaks. It does happen and should technically happen more after a streak to hold you to 50-50.

Otherwise I think getting streaks then a loss, streaks then loss would be common.

[Jbrutal]

yes force 50% winrate

[MovingTargetTez]

Nah it is called playing solo in a team based game.
Simply put, play in a stack and stop complaining about team mates.
The only factor is your ability to play as a team. Yeah the matchmaking isn't perfect but it isn't forcing you to play with random people, you're choosing to do that yourself.

[Artek [General]]

This has been a theory for a while, and it kinda makes sense - people don't tend to play games where they lose constantly. That being said - i am of an opinion that it is simply cannot work, realistically speaking: humans are not just numbers and are very chaotic and unstable agents, then you consider how many moving parts there are actually in DOTA - starting from what heroes are picked, to how they interact on lane and it becomes impossible to reliably predict anything.
Same 2v2 lane of exactly equally skilled players will play out differently each time depending purely on what heroes they have. First time team 1 will dominate the lane, then team 2, then it will be a draw of harassment without any kills (or equal kills) and it just...
Like, we've all seen the International, right? Even those pro players have complete stomps of matches to the point where enemy team simply write "GG" at like minute 15 with all of their T2 towers still standing because they can just see where this is going and are simply rather just go to round 2 and try a different strategy.

You know this feature where you can predict victory? I've completely given up on it. I can TRY to predict things based on picks (usually i just check which teams has the more cancerous heroes) and go from there, but it literally just doesn't matter - i've seen perfectly balanced or cancerous picks get steamrolled into oblivion and i've seen completely retarded picks of 5 carries dominate and win instead. It just doesn't matter.
I think my highest ever prediction streak was 5 or something. I don't even bother trying to predict anything when i'm at 0 or 1 successful predictions - i just click the button because it doesn't matter what i think.

[Absche]

I think smurfs wouldn't exist if this would be true. And what I read, they are the biggest issue in the game.

[D4C]

you only want win and win,you can win streak but cant accept you losing streak?

[Yurii]

are you trolling or is this a genuine question?

of course it has 50% winrate.
i tell you even more.. if you play decent amount of games you realize that system also takes into account heroes that players take most of the time and winrate of those heroes + matches them together too.

so, skill-wise, you play with players of your level but their hero picks (and definitely YOURS) are going to be trash compared to the opposite team after you have a win streak.

if you care about winning, you should increase your hero pool drastically.. but where is the fun if you always make counter-pick instead of having fun?

anyway, 50% is what keeps players playing, so it will never go.

[ʍolɟ ǝɥʇ ǝsɹǝʌǝɹ]

Yes it's very much streak based

[MovingTargetTez]

Some very interesting takes on this thread.
Imagine playing the game and accepting that you will eventually lose.....

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Originally posted by MovingTargetTez:

Some very interesting takes on this thread.
Imagine playing the game and accepting that you will eventually lose.....

i started a post about a surrender option ,,, if you and your team see that there is no point playing for 30 mins just surrender this will reduce toxicity i believe as you wont see team ruin or afk farm or rubick with deso and some smart players when they see that the other team is weak and will lose they extended the game as long as possible to finish hero quests

[MovingTargetTez]

Originally posted by salmnb:

i started a post about a surrender option ,,, if you and your team see that there is no point playing for 30 mins just surrender this will reduce toxicity i believe as you wont see team ruin or afk farm or rubick with deso and some smart players when they see that the other team is weak and will lose they extended the game as long as possible to finish hero quests

I fail to see how any of this is relevant to the topic.
Also there is a surrender feature already in place, you just need to play in a stack to use it.

Also the surrender feature would not reduce toxicity, if anything it would make matters worse as people will be spamming the GG option the second a support takes a last hit or mid dies.

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Originally posted by MovingTargetTez:

Originally posted by salmnb:

i started a post about a surrender option ,,, if you and your team see that there is no point playing for 30 mins just surrender this will reduce toxicity i believe as you wont see team ruin or afk farm or rubick with deso and some smart players when they see that the other team is weak and will lose they extended the game as long as possible to finish hero quests

I fail to see how any of this is relevant to the topic.
Also there is a surrender feature already in place, you just need to play in a stack to use it.

Also the surrender feature would not reduce toxicity, if anything it would make matters worse as people will be spamming the GG option the second a support takes a last hit or mid dies.

no its vote thing not just typing gg just like smite when you press surrender it starts a vote and it will fix things and make new players not quit the game after playing 10 games and reduce the matchmaking problem that this post is about by surrendering when you know that the matchmaking screwed you or wants you lose ok i will lose but in 15 mins not 30 min plus

[MovingTargetTez]

Originally posted by salmnb:

no its vote thing not just typing gg just like smite when you press surrender it starts a vote and it will fix things and make new players not quit the game after playing 10 games and reduce the matchmaking problem that this post is about by surrendering when you know that the matchmaking screwed you or wants you lose ok i will lose but in 15 mins not 30 min plus

That is how you start the vote to surrender, you type GG and then you wait 10 seconds. During those 10 seconds anybody on the same team can press cancel.

The game itself promotes trying to win, obviously there are cases when that isn't possible.
Again it won't fix a thing, regardless of the players being new or not they still need to play in order to obtain knowledge and game sense so they will know what to do should they see a similar line up at another point.

Giving up solves nothing.