Dota 2
Aeon Disk rare bug?
Hi there!

Just played a game where something really weird happened, here is the link with the clip (15 seconds) on Vimeo. You can check Vimeo on Google, it's safe so this post is a genuine question.

https://vimeo.com/970191414

I've checked on replay all possiblilities to try to understand why the item did not activated, in case I missed something atm of the battle; every hero items, neutrals, talents, facets and abilities. In my point of view there is no explanation for such thing to happen!

What you guys think, did I miss something or is it some weird kind of interactions that resulted in a bug?? Btw do you guys know other place to discuss it rather than here? Dunno if people in here take it too serious... thanks!
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ZEFIR001 (Banned) Jun 28, 2024 @ 12:04am 
It was activated,but effect has been debuffed with something, can't really see it on clip,you have to look trough combat log.
76561199664677288 Jun 29, 2024 @ 3:08am 
Originally posted by ZEFIR001:
It was activated,but effect has been debuffed with something, can't really see it on clip,you have to look trough combat log.

Hello there! Yeah, you're tottally right about the item not activating, I wanted to mean that the effect that it provides wasn't dispelled at all hahaha.

Checking the Combat Log was a great idea btw. After checking it thoroughly I could find the "Combo Breaker" log being activated, but in any moment it was dispelled. I took damage right away indeed, just as the video shows.

I want someone to proe that I'm wrong but I really think it was a bug!
I looked at all the debuffs that were active on your person, and didn't find anything that could interrupt the "blocks damage" effect of Aeon Disk. Aeon Disk can be muted and prevented from proccing, but the Aeon Disk DID proc. The only thing I can think of that would still deal "damage" through Aeon Disk would be the Undying's strength steal from Decay, but that wouldn't have been fast enough to kill you before Aeon Disk's duration could end. You weren't Nullify'd either, which would've completely dispelled the Aeon Disk anyways and it would not have shown up as a buff, so yeah I would chalk this up to a pretty major bug.
I'm wondering if it could be related to proccing the Aeon Disk while having a barrier active. You swapped in and then immediately ate a crit from PA which ate the barrier and a good chunk of health, might be that barriers are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ with Aeon Disk's max health detection and losing that "max health" in the barrier just breaks it.
Last edited by Water Vapor Merchant; Jun 29, 2024 @ 3:36am
So after some testing in Demo Mode, I figured out what it is. For whatever reason, if Undying hits you while he is in Flesh Golem form, that amplified damage debuff it applies GOES THROUGH Aeon Disk, and any attacks or spells cast at you while you have that debuff will still deal that bonus percentage of damage. So if you have debuff while Aeon Disk is active and somebody hits you with a 100 damage attack, Aeon Disk will block the actual attack damage, but the amplified damage will still pierce through it, dealing somewhere like 25 damage in this instance.
This is pretty wild, definitely a bug because it's not supposed to pierce even debuff immunity, let alone Aeon Disk's Combo Breaker.
76561199664677288 Jun 29, 2024 @ 11:11am 
Originally posted by Water Vapor Merchant:
So after some testing in Demo Mode, I figured out what it is. For whatever reason, if Undying hits you while he is in Flesh Golem form, that amplified damage debuff it applies GOES THROUGH Aeon Disk, and any attacks or spells cast at you while you have that debuff will still deal that bonus percentage of damage. So if you have debuff while Aeon Disk is active and somebody hits you with a 100 damage attack, Aeon Disk will block the actual attack damage, but the amplified damage will still pierce through it, dealing somewhere like 25 damage in this instance.
This is pretty wild, definitely a bug because it's not supposed to pierce even debuff immunity, let alone Aeon Disk's Combo Breaker.

Holy molly, just tested it and you are completely right about it! The amplified dmg from Undying's ult allowed this bizarre thing to happen, which I also think that it's still wrong and need to be fixed.

Do you know the best way to let Valve know about it, since they'll never read things in here?? Thank you for your time, really appreciated it!
Originally posted by Cookie Pisca:
Originally posted by Water Vapor Merchant:
So after some testing in Demo Mode, I figured out what it is. For whatever reason, if Undying hits you while he is in Flesh Golem form, that amplified damage debuff it applies GOES THROUGH Aeon Disk, and any attacks or spells cast at you while you have that debuff will still deal that bonus percentage of damage. So if you have debuff while Aeon Disk is active and somebody hits you with a 100 damage attack, Aeon Disk will block the actual attack damage, but the amplified damage will still pierce through it, dealing somewhere like 25 damage in this instance.
This is pretty wild, definitely a bug because it's not supposed to pierce even debuff immunity, let alone Aeon Disk's Combo Breaker.

Holy molly, just tested it and you are completely right about it! The amplified dmg from Undying's ult allowed this bizarre thing to happen, which I also think that it's still wrong and need to be fixed.

Do you know the best way to let Valve know about it, since they'll never read things in here?? Thank you for your time, really appreciated it!
I submitted a report through that Dota Labs feature they added in the Settings even though that's not technically what it's supposed to be used for. Their old dev forums where you used to be able to report bugs have since been archived, so I don't really know any official channels for reporting issues.
what about new wk facet with delayed dmg? does it prog through as well? a friend of mine told me so, could not confirm yet.
76561199664677288 Jun 29, 2024 @ 10:50pm 
Originally posted by DJ RAWSTYLE in ya FaC3:
what about new wk facet with delayed dmg? does it prog through as well? a friend of mine told me so, could not confirm yet.

Just tested it here and the answer is yes, it also pierces the Combo Breaker ability from Aeon Disk! That's crazy man!
76561199664677288 Jun 29, 2024 @ 10:56pm 
Originally posted by Water Vapor Merchant:
Originally posted by Cookie Pisca:

Holy molly, just tested it and you are completely right about it! The amplified dmg from Undying's ult allowed this bizarre thing to happen, which I also think that it's still wrong and need to be fixed.

Do you know the best way to let Valve know about it, since they'll never read things in here?? Thank you for your time, really appreciated it!
I submitted a report through that Dota Labs feature they added in the Settings even though that's not technically what it's supposed to be used for. Their old dev forums where you used to be able to report bugs have since been archived, so I don't really know any official channels for reporting issues.

I'm trying the GitHub for Valve Software/Dota 2, now we need to wait hehehe
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