Dota 2
Superhero Apr 26, 2024 @ 12:12pm
Found a Immortal Rank 500~1000 live ranked game of 10 BOTS (literally non-human), what was going on?
Match ID 7706530038. I don't know how to paste an image here so I'll leave the match ID for people to quick check.

Was watching live games and came across this high mmr game, I found it strange when none of the heros started the game with any item, at first I thought it was a client bug or something, but it was not.

All 10 heros just position weirdly and do autos, die to lane creeps and things like that. Obviously all 10 of them are bots, later in the game the bounty runes pile up and never got picked up should be the most explicit evidence.

I checked all the player profile as well, all of them are ranked players, the trophies level are 42/43 which indicates new smurf account, and their steam account levels are all 0.

Can someone tell me what's going on here? Is it some valve's new experiment? This is way too uncanny...
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Artek [General] Apr 26, 2024 @ 12:18pm 
Valve got nothing to do with this, most likely someone is having fun with AI tech and Dota is just the unfortunate bystander used for it.
Kinda like TF2 bot infestation.
safetyF1rst Apr 26, 2024 @ 12:26pm 
it really looks like they are bots with empty identical profiles
Maybe Valve using AI bots ^^ Better wake up
safetyF1rst Apr 26, 2024 @ 6:38pm 
I think it's worth contacting support for clarification. I don't think this bot party belongs to Valve. However, it is unclear how they all ended up in one place.
Last edited by safetyF1rst; Apr 26, 2024 @ 6:54pm
Originally posted by GyuGyu:
Match ID 7706530038. I don't know how to paste an image here so I'll leave the match ID for people to quick check.

Was watching live games and came across this high mmr game, I found it strange when none of the heros started the game with any item, at first I thought it was a client bug or something, but it was not.

All 10 heros just position weirdly and do autos, die to lane creeps and things like that. Obviously all 10 of them are bots, later in the game the bounty runes pile up and never got picked up should be the most explicit evidence.

I checked all the player profile as well, all of them are ranked players, the trophies level are 42/43 which indicates new smurf account, and their steam account levels are all 0.

Can someone tell me what's going on here? Is it some valve's new experiment? This is way too uncanny...
Your thread's going to get censored and pruned better save it on waybackmachine or your own machine
InvisibleChad May 16, 2024 @ 6:48am 
I think they deleted the match , its stuck on Downloading for hours now .
The creatures working at Valve are upset that you caught them in action !
Soon ! Very Soon ! We will be able to sue all gaming companies are publishers for everything they got ! We Will make them accountable for their crimes !
its nintendo when jesus arrived were just riding the waves mates not testers
KafeiniBol May 16, 2024 @ 6:59am 
https://steamcommunity.com/app/570/discussions/0/4339859086865008610/

i got post for this already. trying to keeping it up. i got 2 matches of them. same 10 acc
Originally posted by Artek General:
Valve got nothing to do with this, most likely someone is having fun with AI tech and Dota is just the unfortunate bystander used for it.
Kinda like TF2 bot infestation.
In a ranked match? Nah you'd use private lobby if there wasn't some other purpose for doing that
AIR May 16, 2024 @ 8:46am 
Cheating in a game is not uncanny. If you go to reddit right now, or watch some streamers, a lot of people are angry about how many people are abusing the Double MMR Token - even at Immortal 500 and so on.

You should report those in Reddit too. This forum doesn't have any developer participation at all, and what happens is that there are a lot of spammers and bots that on a daily basis floods at least the first tree pages. At least on Reddit posts get upvoted and the few devs that actually bother to read forward it to the proper channels.

There is also Github.

The problem is that Valve is too soft with punishment. There are many players with thousands of games on their accounts that are VAC Banned on Dota, play with a bought account and when they lose the bought account, they really don't care, because for them price isn't an issue. Buying and selling accounts usually leads to termination of said accounts, but people that buy accounts usually have many of them.

When I read something like "We terminated 500.000 Steam Accounts that were in heavy violation of Steam terms of use and in abuse of Dota 2", that is the day I will start respecting the Valve Game Moderation.

They just don't care because they are making money out of it, and it's lowkey: the moment it becomes a scandal, then they act.

For example, did you know that half of the pro players use paid services to boost their behavior score? Even higher than that. When Mason was banned he said "I used a service to increase my behavior for 10 games, and this is what I get?" and you could see he was about to say more, but, well, it's the same story in any corporation: the moment you snitch on everyone, you are burned out of the industry.

Just look at all the "Predator Talents" or "Extreme Toxic Personalities" Valve got rid of in the last years. That is, as it always is the case, just the tip.
So the 10 bots are player accounts having their bs boosted?
Originally posted by Artek General:
Valve got nothing to do with this, most likely someone is having fun with AI tech and Dota is just the unfortunate bystander used for it.
Kinda like TF2 bot infestation.

They are farming MMR and then selling those accounts.
Saya May 17, 2024 @ 2:19am 
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will May 18, 2024 @ 7:54am 
Originally posted by Charm:
Cheating in a game is not uncanny. If you go to reddit right now, or watch some streamers, a lot of people are angry about how many people are abusing the Double MMR Token - even at Immortal 500 and so on.

I see smurfs all day long, in each match. so... why should it be different at immortal 500?
it's the same : someone who cheats, is a cheater. someone who lies, is a liar.

If they can destroy any moral value in-game in order to gain something , without respect to their teammates (smurfs, grief in order to stay low in mmr etc), why those immortals would be different regarding to cheats?

Why dbl MMR tokens exist at the first place?
It's pure gamble.
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Date Posted: Apr 26, 2024 @ 12:12pm
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