This pay to win Queue dodging needs to be removed.

[Coob]

As a solo player my experience got worse and worse over the time. But since this happened it got way worse.
I just carried a game as viper on mid and my team refused to help me snowball, they even used me as bait so they can farm the low life heros that i fought.

Now i also know why one guy "did not accept" the game. Thats probably someone that dodged this Queue, right?
Dota is no longer free2play. You have Dota+ that helps you dodge ♥♥♥♥ lobbies, you have it for telling you which skill and items you should buy in that match, which is crazy that this is allowed in ranked since thats the "skill" you should have" and you get told what you should pick for a good line up.

So many things wrong with it but the Queue dodging is insane. Because everyone that isn't paying insta queues into the ♥♥♥♥ lobbies.

My behaviour and Communication score is always over 10k and i don't deserve these toxic and griefing lobbies.

[YONGSINNER]

That dodging thing is actually useless.
During my Dota Plus I had all matches "Perfect".

About skill and items that's funny.
In most cases Dota Plus suggest worst item build than default one

[YONGSINNER]

Dota Plus makes your life easier in some cases, like rune timers and etc.
That's it.
There's nothing that gives you gameplay advantages.

[Artek [General]]

Originally posted by YONGSINNER:

Dota Plus makes your life easier in some cases, like rune timers and etc.
That's it.
There's nothing that gives you gameplay advantages.

Dota plus item assistant is very nice. Better than default guides, and I prefer it over highly rated "pro" guides I usually find.
The physical/magical incoming damage analysis bar helps me making a call on when to make Mage Slayer or Pipe, as 60%+ incoming magical damage is a cause for concern.

They are small things, but they make the playing experience so much smoother and more transparent.

[Coob]

Originally posted by YONGSINNER:

That dodging thing is actually useless.
During my Dota Plus I had all matches "Perfect".

Then you are just lucky with Queues. And if it happens that there is like a big difference in skill or behaviour (I forgot what it is saying) you have the option to dodge.
I don't.

[YONGSINNER]

Originally posted by Artek General:

Originally posted by YONGSINNER:

Dota Plus makes your life easier in some cases, like rune timers and etc.
That's it.
There's nothing that gives you gameplay advantages.

Dota plus item assistant is very nice. Better than default guides, and I prefer it over highly rated "pro" guides I usually find.
The physical/magical incoming damage analysis bar helps me making a call on when to make Mage Slayer or Pipe, as 60%+ incoming magical damage is a cause for concern.

They are small things, but they make the playing experience so much smoother and more transparent.

If you're playing long enough, you can easily calculate that by yourself, without Dota Plus.
It is good for a new players

[﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽]

Originally posted by YONGSINNER:

That dodging thing is actually useless.
During my Dota Plus I had all matches "Perfect".

About skill and items that's funny.
In most cases Dota Plus suggest worst item build than default one

Win dodging literally used to be free if you knew how matchmaking worked and with Dota plus from overwolf which both tools are now useless and locked behind paid Dota plus its like these dota 2 devs know it themselves their matchmaking is bad and thus the fix is behind the paid subscription from themselves

[Coob]

Originally posted by 76561198122367077:

Originally posted by YONGSINNER:

That dodging thing is actually useless.
During my Dota Plus I had all matches "Perfect".

About skill and items that's funny.
In most cases Dota Plus suggest worst item build than default one

Win dodging literally used to be free if you knew how matchmaking worked and with Dota plus from overwolf which both tools are now useless and locked behind paid Dota plus its like these dota 2 devs know it themselves their matchmaking is bad and thus the fix is behind the paid subscription from themselves

And can you tell me how that works? I have a few thousand hours and never heard of it. The only thing i get if a game is found quickly or not. Like instantly finding a game or searching for one. What else can you "see"?

[﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽]

Originally posted by Coob:

Originally posted by 76561198122367077:

Win dodging literally used to be free if you knew how matchmaking worked and with Dota plus from overwolf which both tools are now useless and locked behind paid Dota plus its like these dota 2 devs know it themselves their matchmaking is bad and thus the fix is behind the paid subscription from themselves

And can you tell me how that works? I have a few thousand hours and never heard of it. The only thing i get if a game is found quickly or not. Like instantly finding a game or searching for one. What else can you "see"?

I can tell you how the old free version used to work
There was old Dota 2 Github script that used to allow Dota 2 players to quit with script and commands

I've repurposed that script to allow me to dodge insanely bad matchmaking games by syncing the pre qued players against my personal griefing playerblock list with Dota 2 API so if Dota 2 Github script found the griefing players from the block list it would immediately decline the match that's how I used to dodge bad games

Since Dota 2 devs banned Dota 2 API use for my account I moved to Dota Plus from overwolf same concept sync pre match player list with blocked playerlist and quit before the matches

Dota 2 devs even banned this for everyone else so you can't even see which players are in the game until you get into the match thus defeating this exploit or i would save sane way to dodge matchmaking bs until they launched the Dota plus paid subscription feature they themselves know how bad the matchmaking is

[Yaksha King]

Dota Plus doest actually have any impact . It always suggests the same build . When i go in matchmaking and match starts , it always sayas your teammates are perfect and ideal . But i havent got a single win with those so called perfect teammates . Its all crap

[Kampfkekskrieger EXP Folk Master]

bad experiences are not a bad thing some people learn to become a good man from that.
third class society shouldnt bother you. thats only because valve is feeding them to come up. if you are a "GOOD" player. i go in anyways. those people need my help. they will pay. they always pay me. its a fair trade and both sides win. i always teach. i never play for selfish reason. and also thats the reason why they never touch me as a person. because germans, thats a folk, not a person.

[ʍolɟ ǝɥʇ ǝsɹǝʌǝɹ]

Well it doesn't work in the first place when judging skill. It may be useful when it comes to behavior though. Think I have more stomps either way with ideal than not currently

[Pyro Penguin]

it really doesn't do what it's supposed to, i only accept games that are close skill range or better and i still get people who play like it's their first match, in fact the one and only time i saw a game that was rated 5/5 for skill, it ended up being one of the worst stomps i had played in a while

[ʍolɟ ǝɥʇ ǝsɹǝʌǝɹ]

Yes players shouldn't be rated on their best or even their average but on consistency. If you do 90k damage one game and 9k damage the next the average still looks pretty good. Noway to say you are skilled though, practiced in brute forcing a single playstyle that either massively fails or pays off maybe, but not skilled