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niaerniopawrjnko May 26, 2024 @ 3:19am
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The matchmaking is rigged
Playing dota ranked is a waste of time, every single game is predetermined to make you waste as much time as possible. For the past week I went from 4.1k mmr to 3.4k and there is literally nothing I can do about it.

Every single game is the same story, I mainly play offlane, my pos 4 picks a useless hero, dies in my lane and then roams. I still win or at least go even in 1vs2 lanes, meanwhile my mid always picks a completely useless hero and loses lane and never roams. My safelane gets stomped, which makes no sense since they are playing a 3vs2. And while all this is happening the enemy pos 1 is free farming the entire game but no one cares.

https://www.dotabuff.com/players/70143044/matches?date=week&enhance=overview

By looking at my dotabuff you can clearly see that I have been put into a losers queue.
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Absche May 26, 2024 @ 6:40am 
Originally posted by niaerniopawrjnko:
Originally posted by Absche:
So, what you gonna do now?
Not waste time with a rigged system. Dota is a perfect game for jobless people with no ambitions in life. For people like me who value their time, Dota is simply not worth it
ok, that's a solution :steamhappy:. Leave it to those who can stand it.
Last edited by Absche; May 26, 2024 @ 6:40am
niaerniopawrjnko May 26, 2024 @ 7:20am 
Originally posted by Ponyeater:
Originally posted by niaerniopawrjnko:
Another strawman, I never said I wasnt making mistakes, I am ancient, of course I make mistakes.

I said I am never the losing factor, what does this mean? Well that my actions are never the reason as to why we lost the game. What does being the losing factor mean? Being an afk farming pos 2 while the enemy roams the entire map and kills your team. Playing support and feeding the enemy core and then abandoning your core. Playing pos 1 and not knowing how to farm efficiently while your entire team is creating space for you, etc...
Absolutely the wrong thing you took from my post.

Yeah, no use talking with you. Stay in that victim mindset of yours. Moving on.
Haha youre too funny. Freaking out because I called you out.

Also wtf is victim mindset even supposed to mean? The game has a matchmaking algorithm designed to make you addicted. This can be proven by anyone knowing how statistics work, and no, the coin toss BS that all the npcs on reddit like talking about all the time is a false equivalence that makes no sense in the context of an team based video game with 1000s of variables.
Ponyeater May 26, 2024 @ 7:21am 
Originally posted by niaerniopawrjnko:
Originally posted by Ponyeater:
Absolutely the wrong thing you took from my post.

Yeah, no use talking with you. Stay in that victim mindset of yours. Moving on.
Haha youre too funny. Freaking out because I called you out.

Also wtf is victim mindset even supposed to mean? The game has a matchmaking algorithm designed to make you addicted. This can be proven by anyone knowing how statistics work, and no, the coin toss BS that all the npcs on reddit like talking about all the time is a false equivalence that makes no sense in the context of an team based video game with 1000s of variables.
Calling me out? I was trying to have a conversation with you about what causes so many frustrating losses in this game. I wasn't even against you, but you felt weirdly attacked by me.

I will chalk that up to written communication never really arriving as intended. Let's just drop it.
teGreyalP May 26, 2024 @ 10:34am 
Originally posted by Ponyeater:
Originally posted by niaerniopawrjnko:
Haha youre too funny. Freaking out because I called you out.

Also wtf is victim mindset even supposed to mean? The game has a matchmaking algorithm designed to make you addicted. This can be proven by anyone knowing how statistics work, and no, the coin toss BS that all the npcs on reddit like talking about all the time is a false equivalence that makes no sense in the context of an team based video game with 1000s of variables.
Calling me out? I was trying to have a conversation with you about what causes so many frustrating losses in this game. I wasn't even against you, but you felt weirdly attacked by me.

I will chalk that up to written communication never really arriving as intended. Let's just drop it.
:d2puck:
teGreyalP May 26, 2024 @ 10:51am 
Originally posted by Limace:
Matchmaking isn’t rigged. You’re tilted. Take a break.


Originally posted by Limace:
Originally posted by niaerniopawrjnko:
Again, another NPC response. If I am tilted, how come I win lane while my team doesnt? Am I the reason my pos 4 picked Spectre? Am I the reason my pos 5 WD went 2/16? Am I the reason my pos 5 Dazzle went 0/14? Am I the reason my midlane always loses lane? Am I the reason my team keeps losing fights with a man advantage?
Why would the matchmaking be rigged against you but never the other team? Why would Valve even do that?

Also, if you win your lane but your teammates lose their, maybe you’re too focused on your own lane? Maybe your teammates help you but you’re not helping them. It’s a team game, remember?

Again, you’re tilted.
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oldschool May 26, 2024 @ 11:27am 
read the description on role que, it literally tells you your not matched based on mmr. if you perform better at a certain role it will act as if your mmr is higher in that role but your actual mmr isnt affected

set aside all the other obvious f'd up things in matchmaking, that alone is enough to prove mmr is rigged
Last edited by oldschool; May 26, 2024 @ 11:28am
Kagami May 26, 2024 @ 11:46am 
Originally posted by Dispersion:
Originally posted by Ponyeater:
Start spamming the most op broken hero you know how to play and see your MMR skyrocket.

Start playing balanced again and see the losing streaks role in.

Especially if you go off-meta or with anyone that was nerfed recently, you will have your faced donkeypunched 8 times out of 10. It's all so tiresome. Dota 2 used to be balanced and offer good choices. It's turning into League with "this hero is meta patch X".
Did you missed the mmr he mentioned before spamming such comments 😆
Mmr is just a number thats quoted when Dendi was still in NAVI. Its useless based on his comment. So not a big problem whatever your mmr is.
This happened to me the last big patch, just when I would use my double down tokens I would get games just like this. Ended up going from Legend 1 to like Archon 1. Played a couple games of the new patch and it seems the same. Ill probably just quit ranked until a couple nerf patches come out.
niaerniopawrjnko May 26, 2024 @ 1:25pm 
Originally posted by ☞★♘♞ ғ₳LŁØùт♘:
This happened to me the last big patch, just when I would use my double down tokens I would get games just like this. Ended up going from Legend 1 to like Archon 1. Played a couple games of the new patch and it seems the same. Ill probably just quit ranked until a couple nerf patches come out.
Honestly the fact that double down tokens even exists shows that Valve are aware of the fact that the matchmaking is basically a casino. Everything is about making as much money as possible by getting you addicted, why else would they allow you to gamble your chances of getting a higher rank? It completely defeats the point of an accurate and fair ranking system.
its like winrate is tweaked at around 50% no matter how much you win you lose the same amount.
7.35d i won almost every game going +1500mmr easily with almost all games going perfect and opposite team with giving good fight.
suddenly in 7.36 i start i get all griefers all smurfs in opposite team even if i got good team and good early game start there is a smurf/bot who just leaves and gives safe to leave.
ngl not a skill issue but most of the free loader brackets are tweaked tbh
Sinner May 27, 2024 @ 3:42am 
Originally posted by Kagami:
Originally posted by Dispersion:
Did you missed the mmr he mentioned before spamming such comments 😆
Mmr is just a number thats quoted when Dendi was still in NAVI. Its useless based on his comment. So not a big problem whatever your mmr is.
It's beyond your understanding buddy so i dont blame because you never had a chance
Kagami May 27, 2024 @ 4:03am 
Originally posted by Dispersion:
Originally posted by Kagami:
Mmr is just a number thats quoted when Dendi was still in NAVI. Its useless based on his comment. So not a big problem whatever your mmr is.
It's beyond your understanding buddy so i dont blame because you never had a chance
I believe Dendi much much more than i believe some random guy in the forum.
Sentient Entropy May 27, 2024 @ 4:11am 
Originally posted by Ponyeater:
Originally posted by Limace:
Why would the matchmaking be rigged against you but never the other team? Why would Valve even do that?

Also, if you win your lane but your teammates lose their, maybe you’re too focused on your own lane? Maybe your teammates help you but you’re not helping them. It’s a team game, remember?

Again, you’re tilted.
It rigs it against everyone with a 50-50 winrate sorta. Although bottom end may experience 40-60 and top end may experience 60-40

'It rigs everyone's matches to 50%, except these people who are well outside the bounds of my conspiracy theory but I will include them and just hope that nobody notices it completely destroys the rest of my argument.'
ƒ(Will) May 27, 2024 @ 5:25am 
Originally posted by Fdynasty:
You need to beat the AI system.

They rigged the human matchs, so you "have to " beat the even more rigged AI system behind the matchmaking?
Exactly as they rig purposedly, they will also lose purposedly the AI race. Because Truth, Trust, Fairness and Goodness are not an option. It's fundamental. The basis of reality in this universe.

They even destroyed the trust in Science recently... They already lost the race.

** There Is No Alternative. TINA **

They didn't learn **anything**... They lost years ago, they're still losing today... even with the best technology you can imagine. they will just destroy the whole world instead of admitting it. Just because they don't want to be honest, say the truth and be the good guys... Simply put. TINA.
Not admiting it will lead you to complete destruction : Delete with no undelete, no backup, no reboot. nothing. Something which is not good will not be preserved.
ƒ(Will) May 27, 2024 @ 5:30am 
Originally posted by niaerniopawrjnko:
Playing dota ranked is a waste of time, every single game is predetermined to make you waste as much time as possible. For the past week I went from 4.1k mmr to 3.4k and there is literally nothing I can do about it.

Every single game is the same story, I mainly play offlane, my pos 4 picks a useless hero, dies in my lane and then roams. I still win or at least go even in 1vs2 lanes, meanwhile my mid always picks a completely useless hero and loses lane and never roams. My safelane gets stomped, which makes no sense since they are playing a 3vs2. And while all this is happening the enemy pos 1 is free farming the entire game but no one cares.

https://www.dotabuff.com/players/70143044/matches?date=week&enhance=overview

By looking at my dotabuff you can clearly see that I have been put into a losers queue.

I agree with you, but , admit it, we have to play less in exchange.

Find the right balance in time so you keep your life enjoyable and still have fun **playing** this **video game**.

Now, if you are like me, you'll lose your trust in the whole system , since a lie is a lie, and someone who lies for 1 thing, lies for anything potentially. And there is no "good lie".

Not saying something (keeping it secret) is not a lie.
a lie is a lie. and it's what makes someone a liar.
Last edited by ƒ(Will); May 27, 2024 @ 5:32am
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