Dota 2
nature's prophet is not support?
everyone said report np
i made solo lane and i played jungle
Originally posted by ∞PARADOX∞:
Originally posted by opero:
Originally posted by Pop Smoke:
NP can be played as pos 1 (carry), 2 (mid), 3 (offlane), 5 (support) but it never jungles. If you jungle from level 1 as any hero without contributing to lane you are griefing your team. It's almost equal to going mid and feeding. Basically you leave your team 4v5 and jungle creeps are giving less gold and exp than lane creeps. The only person allowed to hit jungle creeps is your pos 1 carry when he has to or reach a moment he farms jungle fast enough like when Luna has some points in glaives or when Sven has enough points into Cleave aiming to roatate to the triangle close to offlane because there are ancients = more farm. Then you as support are allowed to take lane instead of him to get some exp and gold and defend it if you can. Pos 2 like Magnus, Storm, TA like to jungle these 2 camps close to mid while their lane is pushed towards the enemy so never ever touch these camps. When mid rotates you can either join and help with rotation as support or take mid to get some exp similar to safe lane. Pos 3 should aim to push enemy safe lane and if he can he should take big and small camp in enemy jungle. Pos 3 should never farm triangle unless he is forced to leave the lane and then he should probably take safe lane while carry is farming triangle.

That's why supports like Winter Wyvern, Kotl, CM, Jakiro, Phoenix are considered good because they can take the lane after their core - farm it safely and defend the tower.

If you would jungle like you did in that game I would report you 100%

no lv1 jungle
i left lane lv3 and started mid tp gank
but ogre magi said np farming jungle report him
our safe lane was dragon knight
i thought DK need solo lane = need fastest level
but ogremagi was still saying report NP
our offlane was enigma
ogre was thinking i should pick lion or something support hero
and i got Low Prio
i main support. even if my carry is a dk, i know he would use fire breath on creeps especially in securing ranged creeps. which causes the creep wave to push sooooo here comes the opportunity for you to pull and leach lesser exp on the lane.

FROM WHAT YOU SAID, you have a midlaner, safelane DK, offlane enigma, support ogre and NP. from this lineup, i wouldve preferred ogre to lane with DK, (bloodlust for DK, fireblast for stun in unison with DK stun, and ogre dps in unison with DK fire breath. this wouldve been a better lane. ALSO ogre can tank which reduces the gold DK invest on regen) after the lane switch up, you couldve pull creeps on offlane, jungle a little, rotate/gank mid and safelane and etc... i dont main NP but i can play its basic principles. I am not a pro but this is just from my own perspective. you can take it or leave it :D
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Mirage Jul 28, 2020 @ 9:36am 
You did what!!!!!!! :O
Nature's Prophet Jul 28, 2020 @ 9:38am 
Originally posted by LT To Shoot:
You did what!!!!!!! :O

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Mecenas Kaszewiak Jul 28, 2020 @ 7:35pm 
Originally posted by opero:
everyone said report np
i made solo lane and i played jungle
NP can be played as pos 1 (carry), 2 (mid), 3 (offlane), 5 (support) but it never jungles. If you jungle from level 1 as any hero without contributing to lane you are griefing your team. It's almost equal to going mid and feeding. Basically you leave your team 4v5 and jungle creeps are giving less gold and exp than lane creeps. The only person allowed to hit jungle creeps is your pos 1 carry when he has to or reach a moment he farms jungle fast enough like when Luna has some points in glaives or when Sven has enough points into Cleave aiming to roatate to the triangle close to offlane because there are ancients = more farm. Then you as support are allowed to take lane instead of him to get some exp and gold and defend it if you can. Pos 2 like Magnus, Storm, TA like to jungle these 2 camps close to mid while their lane is pushed towards the enemy so never ever touch these camps. When mid rotates you can either join and help with rotation as support or take mid to get some exp similar to safe lane. Pos 3 should aim to push enemy safe lane and if he can he should take big and small camp in enemy jungle. Pos 3 should never farm triangle unless he is forced to leave the lane and then he should probably take safe lane while carry is farming triangle.

That's why supports like Winter Wyvern, Kotl, CM, Jakiro, Phoenix are considered good because they can take the lane after their core - farm it safely and defend the tower.

If you would jungle like you did in that game I would report you 100%
The problem with that is you are a support but you are jungling. You failed to understand the role of supports.
【Silver】 Jul 28, 2020 @ 8:05pm 
Basically, wait until the game's properly renamed LoL 2 or Pos4 is suppose to jungle like in League so offlane can have it's solo lane exp.
Duchess Minty Jul 28, 2020 @ 8:36pm 
Originally posted by opero:
i made solo lane and i played jungle
That's not playing a support, if you're just afk jungling without rotating you're literally screwing over the sidelane you abandoned.
Rhys Jul 28, 2020 @ 9:55pm 
Originally posted by opero:
everyone said report np
i made solo lane and i played jungle

TP first, buy wards, kill couriers - your team will be fine with it
huez Jul 29, 2020 @ 1:46am 
Originally posted by Pop Smoke:
Originally posted by opero:
everyone said report np
i made solo lane and i played jungle
NP can be played as pos 1 (carry), 2 (mid), 3 (offlane), 5 (support) but it never jungles. If you jungle from level 1 as any hero without contributing to lane you are griefing your team. It's almost equal to going mid and feeding. Basically you leave your team 4v5 and jungle creeps are giving less gold and exp than lane creeps. The only person allowed to hit jungle creeps is your pos 1 carry when he has to or reach a moment he farms jungle fast enough like when Luna has some points in glaives or when Sven has enough points into Cleave aiming to roatate to the triangle close to offlane because there are ancients = more farm. Then you as support are allowed to take lane instead of him to get some exp and gold and defend it if you can. Pos 2 like Magnus, Storm, TA like to jungle these 2 camps close to mid while their lane is pushed towards the enemy so never ever touch these camps. When mid rotates you can either join and help with rotation as support or take mid to get some exp similar to safe lane. Pos 3 should aim to push enemy safe lane and if he can he should take big and small camp in enemy jungle. Pos 3 should never farm triangle unless he is forced to leave the lane and then he should probably take safe lane while carry is farming triangle.

That's why supports like Winter Wyvern, Kotl, CM, Jakiro, Phoenix are considered good because they can take the lane after their core - farm it safely and defend the tower.

If you would jungle like you did in that game I would report you 100%

Hmm solo laning for higher xp and potential double kills vs greedy low lvls is dead option?


Nature's Prophet Jul 29, 2020 @ 2:14am 
Originally posted by Pop Smoke:
Originally posted by opero:
everyone said report np
i made solo lane and i played jungle
NP can be played as pos 1 (carry), 2 (mid), 3 (offlane), 5 (support) but it never jungles. If you jungle from level 1 as any hero without contributing to lane you are griefing your team. It's almost equal to going mid and feeding. Basically you leave your team 4v5 and jungle creeps are giving less gold and exp than lane creeps. The only person allowed to hit jungle creeps is your pos 1 carry when he has to or reach a moment he farms jungle fast enough like when Luna has some points in glaives or when Sven has enough points into Cleave aiming to roatate to the triangle close to offlane because there are ancients = more farm. Then you as support are allowed to take lane instead of him to get some exp and gold and defend it if you can. Pos 2 like Magnus, Storm, TA like to jungle these 2 camps close to mid while their lane is pushed towards the enemy so never ever touch these camps. When mid rotates you can either join and help with rotation as support or take mid to get some exp similar to safe lane. Pos 3 should aim to push enemy safe lane and if he can he should take big and small camp in enemy jungle. Pos 3 should never farm triangle unless he is forced to leave the lane and then he should probably take safe lane while carry is farming triangle.

That's why supports like Winter Wyvern, Kotl, CM, Jakiro, Phoenix are considered good because they can take the lane after their core - farm it safely and defend the tower.

If you would jungle like you did in that game I would report you 100%

no lv1 jungle
i left lane lv3 and started mid tp gank
but ogre magi said np farming jungle report him
our safe lane was dragon knight
i thought DK need solo lane = need fastest level
but ogremagi was still saying report NP
our offlane was enigma
ogre was thinking i should pick lion or something support hero
and i got Low Prio
Last edited by Nature's Prophet; Jul 29, 2020 @ 2:18am
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Originally posted by opero:
Originally posted by Pop Smoke:
NP can be played as pos 1 (carry), 2 (mid), 3 (offlane), 5 (support) but it never jungles. If you jungle from level 1 as any hero without contributing to lane you are griefing your team. It's almost equal to going mid and feeding. Basically you leave your team 4v5 and jungle creeps are giving less gold and exp than lane creeps. The only person allowed to hit jungle creeps is your pos 1 carry when he has to or reach a moment he farms jungle fast enough like when Luna has some points in glaives or when Sven has enough points into Cleave aiming to roatate to the triangle close to offlane because there are ancients = more farm. Then you as support are allowed to take lane instead of him to get some exp and gold and defend it if you can. Pos 2 like Magnus, Storm, TA like to jungle these 2 camps close to mid while their lane is pushed towards the enemy so never ever touch these camps. When mid rotates you can either join and help with rotation as support or take mid to get some exp similar to safe lane. Pos 3 should aim to push enemy safe lane and if he can he should take big and small camp in enemy jungle. Pos 3 should never farm triangle unless he is forced to leave the lane and then he should probably take safe lane while carry is farming triangle.

That's why supports like Winter Wyvern, Kotl, CM, Jakiro, Phoenix are considered good because they can take the lane after their core - farm it safely and defend the tower.

If you would jungle like you did in that game I would report you 100%

no lv1 jungle
i left lane lv3 and started mid tp gank
but ogre magi said np farming jungle report him
our safe lane was dragon knight
i thought DK need solo lane = need fastest level
but ogremagi was still saying report NP
our offlane was enigma
ogre was thinking i should pick lion or something support hero
and i got Low Prio
i main support. even if my carry is a dk, i know he would use fire breath on creeps especially in securing ranged creeps. which causes the creep wave to push sooooo here comes the opportunity for you to pull and leach lesser exp on the lane.

FROM WHAT YOU SAID, you have a midlaner, safelane DK, offlane enigma, support ogre and NP. from this lineup, i wouldve preferred ogre to lane with DK, (bloodlust for DK, fireblast for stun in unison with DK stun, and ogre dps in unison with DK fire breath. this wouldve been a better lane. ALSO ogre can tank which reduces the gold DK invest on regen) after the lane switch up, you couldve pull creeps on offlane, jungle a little, rotate/gank mid and safelane and etc... i dont main NP but i can play its basic principles. I am not a pro but this is just from my own perspective. you can take it or leave it :D
Last edited by ∞PARADOX∞; Jul 29, 2020 @ 2:30am
Nature's Prophet Jul 29, 2020 @ 2:58am 
our team was
mid = puck, off = enigma with ogre, safe = dk and mm(np)

i thought if i pick lion or other weak support we will lose
Ulthwé Jul 29, 2020 @ 3:15am 
Originally posted by opero:
our team was
mid = puck, off = enigma with ogre, safe = dk and mm(np)

i thought if i pick lion or other weak support we will lose

How is lion weak? He has stun, hex, mana burn and one of the biggest early nuke.
Nature's Prophet Jul 29, 2020 @ 3:52am 
Originally posted by Nagash:
Originally posted by opero:
our team was
mid = puck, off = enigma with ogre, safe = dk and mm(np)

i thought if i pick lion or other weak support we will lose

How is lion weak? He has stun, hex, mana burn and one of the biggest early nuke.

no damage dealer
i cant use well lion
Last edited by Nature's Prophet; Jul 29, 2020 @ 3:54am
Ulthwé Jul 29, 2020 @ 4:44am 
Originally posted by opero:
Originally posted by Nagash:

How is lion weak? He has stun, hex, mana burn and one of the biggest early nuke.

no damage dealer
i cant use well lion

Lion is an easy support, recommended for beginner. He doesn't have a skill to farm, like most supports anyway. You should bear online that the support often build mana boots or tranquil, glimmer, force staff and such, it is not your main job to farm, actually you mostly need xp. You are not supposed to be the main damages dealer, even as a lich. In the end, NP is a very bad pos 5 even if he can be a decent pos 4. He can harass with hits and tenants and lock in trees, but that is all, when many other supports have stuns and nuke or protection/healing spell.
Nature's Prophet Aug 1, 2020 @ 7:49am 
Originally posted by Nagash:
Originally posted by opero:

no damage dealer
i cant use well lion

Lion is an easy support, recommended for beginner. He doesn't have a skill to farm, like most supports anyway. You should bear online that the support often build mana boots or tranquil, glimmer, force staff and such, it is not your main job to farm, actually you mostly need xp. You are not supposed to be the main damages dealer, even as a lich. In the end, NP is a very bad pos 5 even if he can be a decent pos 4. He can harass with hits and tenants and lock in trees, but that is all, when many other supports have stuns and nuke or protection/healing spell.

i dont think
lion so weak
i will die if bkb enemy attacking me 100% died
Last edited by Nature's Prophet; Aug 1, 2020 @ 7:50am
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