Troll Warlord needs to be taken out of rotation and reworked

[Ulfhedinn]

Im already expecting the trolly troll fan club to hate this but its a fact. Troll Warlord is incredibly broken at any level of play, is repeatedly banned or picked out of fear in many drafts at various levels. Especially at levels where 95 percent of your player base is playing.

Few years back, Valve, you took Huskar out of rotation to fix him and make him relevant and not picked constantly. Fact is, I see troll in about 85 percent of my games now.
CAN HE BE MANAGED? No, not in reality, but if you are lucky, one of your carry lanes will do well enough to pick up that Halberd.... thing is... why is this even a discussion if the only way to defeat him is to hope that someone picks up a halberd?

He only needs two items to be relevant. Bacer and lifesteal early. Once he has those you cannot kill him 2 on 1, and you may not even be able to kill him 3 on one without invoker or stormspirit in your lineup.

Fact is, he is BROKEN. He needs a nerf to his attack speed buff. either doubling the amount of hits it takes to get to his full speed, He needs his dps to reduce with each stack of attack speed... SOMETHING to regulate how broken he is.

He has gotten worse over time for some reason. Im not sure if its due to the speed by which the game can now be farmed... or if its the hero itself. But, its impossible to play matches consistently successful against this hero.

He needs to be removed, and reworked. Either doing a complete overhaul on the hero, or fixing his dps output. Maybe a debuff should be to his dps during each stack of natural attack speed, and the ult negates the debuff? Something... whatever it is it needs a fix. The game is almost unplayable if he is in the match.

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[LordQuindecim]

Haaa...anyone here remember dota 1 days where when troll sneaks you with lothars and youre still stunlocked till next game? Good days good days

[Grimmz]

yeah 1 player knows more than a multi-billion dollar company. sounds about right.

[Yozh]

I can't get pass the lol title

[76561199074709255]

chill dude. Sure troll can use a lot of items with his fervor atk speed such as daedilius, skull basher, diffusal etc. but all u need to counter him are disablers and axe. Axe's culling blade cuts thru Battle trance's invulnerability so just stun him, drop him low and take him out. Or u can chain stun troll warlord to waste hiss battle trance. Its not that hard. Troll can be easily countered unless he has bkb but even then, culling blade pierces spell immunity i think. Another thing u can do is to burn troll warlord's mana before he can use battle trance... Unless troll has mkb, evasion is also a good defense against him...

I suggest u try playing with bounty hunter. I have had epic matches as bounty hunter against pro phantom assasins, invokers etc. Also, bounty hunter gets 40% evasion talent on lvl 25 talent.

[Alpha Omega Pepega]

His winrate only goes to 50% only at guardian level.All other ranks have him below 50.You just have to learn how to play.All of his abilities are super bad and ez to counter.Tbh its one of the trash tier carry heros rn.

[Purple Sauce]

He's not OP, just annoying af. His ult needs to be reworked because it's broken.

[Pyro Penguin]

Originally posted by Eidetik:

if you are lucky, one of your carry lanes will do well enough to pick up that Halberd.... thing is... why is this even a discussion if the only way to defeat him is to hope that someone picks up a halberd?

you dont need to be lucky to counter-build a hero, in fact you should be doing it in every game, if you arent then that would explain a lot of your losses

[BossGalaga]

Just donked on a BKB troll in my last game. And got MVP as a support.

Typically in threads like these, it's not really that X hero is OP, it's more like I just got beat by X hero in my last game!

And sure enough, there was a Troll Warlord in your last game, which you lost. And your entire team played pretty badly. And the Troll played well but it was actually the Skywrath donking on your team, more kills, more assists, less deaths and did almost 6k more damage than the Troll did.

https://www.opendota.com/matches/5535605109

[Purple Sauce]

Originally posted by Pyro Penguin:

Originally posted by Eidetik:

if you are lucky, one of your carry lanes will do well enough to pick up that Halberd.... thing is... why is this even a discussion if the only way to defeat him is to hope that someone picks up a halberd?

you dont need to be lucky to counter-build a hero, in fact you should be doing it in every game, if you arent then that would explain a lot of your losses

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