Multiple accounts

[Unfair Advantages]

Before anyone gets mad or says something dumb about it being unfair, trust me, it wouldn't be. So In my situation currently, Yes I have 15000k hours on my main, and I have a hell of a lot of experience, but it doesn't mean ♥♥♥♥ when you have carpelltunnel stage 2. I've played dota since 2012, and PC gaming for 17 years since I was 7 foorrr roughly 8-20 hours a day every day. So yeah its not a surprise I got it so young then. While I have an immense ammount of game knowledge I still cannot perform better than that of a low archon or crusader these days, my main account MMR is wayyyy too high and alwasy sticks me with people around the same ammount of games/hours.. which they will always be better now because again, my hand aint doing great. So Will it be fair If I can just mkae a new account and play where I belong now? I accept I am trash now I don't want to be a high rank where I cannot even sustain myself up there or even have fun. So TLDR I have very bad carpelltunnel hand condtion and can no longer play in my high MMR games, is it still not fair to make a new account where I belong?

[Си́нтез]

valve may ban one or more of your accounts if you get caught

[Unfair Advantages]

Yeahh.. i know thats what Im scared of but I'm not trying to do this to be nefarious or unfair or smurf, lol. Seriously you try playing your best with this much hand pain and constriction. It's ridiculous.

[Си́нтез]

It does sound that right now is the worst time to try and create another dota account, since valve are getting more convinced that smurf account should be banned. You better consult with steam support before trying that but most likely their responce would not count as 100% safe permission to use another account in dota

[$uicidelev$G59$]

Idk man, some of my friends have 2-3 accounts and their mains had no bans on them. But they were just accasionaly playing, not boosting anyone. So I think you're safe to do so. I hope you get better, I think one of American cybersport Dota players suffered from this (Fear) but he healed.

[Unfair Advantages]

Yeah it was fear, one of my favorite pros, he went from Pos 1 to Pos 4-5 and eventually just did the coaching because of it. And yeah thanks man I really hope so too.

[Absche]

That‘s the pity, no official regrinding chances in Dota2. You are eternally bound to the sins or the genius of your younger ego.

In 2015 - 2018 or so players often made the mistake to qualify much too early for ranked ending up in the so called lower tier trench. This tier was and still is full of player induced unreliabilities making it hard to recognize your individual impact at all. But people noticed that quite fast and restarted from scratch. This time calibrating much later for ranked to be sure to get a first rank at archon or higher. This was a kind of inherent skill based qualification for ranked. On failure you could start that qualification again.

Today players still do the same mistake („I have my 100 h but can’t play ranked“) but are then forever caught by the trench without a chance to retry. The result is, many complains and whiny posts about bad mm, Smurfs, forced 50% etc at lower ranks solo gaming, just because people did a typical newbie mistake. Without a chance to learn from it and leave that mistake behind.

Of course there are two main factors causing this: the strict „no second try“ policy as well as the change from normal to ranked as the standard mode in Dota2. Ranked gaming has totally lost its add-on for competitive gamer. It‘s turned into a mode available for everyone at every time and even with more convenience factors in mm than unranked.

[ixthid the desolate]

if you have massive game knowledge but play like crusader then you are just bad
you don't need to click fast to be divine, you need brain so that you don't feed and ur on the correct part of the map always

if you don't make a new account, you ruin high mmr games
if you make a new account, you ruin low mmr games and risk getting banned
you're going to ruin games anyway, just don't risk getting banned xd

if you cannot play anymore, then stop playing
just don't ruin any games xd
get surgery or just stop dota and things that use your hands a lot completely

because you can say you are in a tough spot, but it is not the fault of the 100s of people on your and enemy team, they are not supposed to suffer for you

[ixthid the desolate]

Originally posted by Absche:

Today players still do the same mistake („I have my 100 h but can’t play ranked“) but are then forever caught by the trench without a chance to retry.

I disagree, you can calibrate herald 1 and still climb. You don't need to be very good, you just need 2.5 braincells. I was herald 1, now I am archon 1, and my coach tells me I play like legend. You can always climb out, don't blame anything other than yourself, because if you put a good player he will climb out in a week, so it means you just need to focus on yourself, and there is always chance for you to improve. Blaming others or the system or "the trenches" will not help you get out. Only you can help yourself get out, if you want to.

Besides, you can always just play to improve and recalibrate. My guardian/crusader friend recalibrated to archon 3 and almost hit ancient. It is not impossible, it is only hard.

[Unfair Advantages]

Originally posted by /muteall:

if you have massive game knowledge but play like crusader then you are just bad
you don't need to click fast to be divine, you need brain so that you don't feed and ur on the correct part of the map always

if you don't make a new account, you ruin high mmr games
if you make a new account, you ruin low mmr games and risk getting banned
you're going to ruin games anyway, just don't risk getting banned xd

if you cannot play anymore, then stop playing
just don't ruin any games xd
get surgery or just stop dota and things that use your hands a lot completely

because you can say you are in a tough spot, but it is not the fault of the 100s of people on your and enemy team, they are not supposed to suffer for you

Good troll comment, I almost caved in man, close.

[LeGeNdArY NooB]

You probably will get banned. and will ruin other peoples game (balance).
My suggestion is to quit ranked games. or play less ranked. you can play unranked, turbo, bot games.
Also arcade custom games.
And play how you can. system will notice your performance and will decrease your rank if you wont be able to keep up.

[697830]

Smurfs - fraud user review posters / bombing -

https://steamcommunity.com/groups/Natus-Vincere/members?searchKey=Jessica

https://steamcommunity.com/groups/Natus-Vincere/members?searchKey=Angee

Valve what was that about

https://store.steampowered.com/online_conduct/ ?

Engage in unlawful activity
Examples of such prohibited behavior include:... engaging in fraud; and creating a false identity for the purpose of misleading others.

Disrupt, damage, or manipulate Steam
Examples of such prohibited behavior include: instituting an attack on a Steam server; artificially manipulating Steam reviews or other content; and automatically generating Steam accounts.

Cheat
Examples of such prohibited behavior include: running cheat programs; smurfing; and artificially boosting your match-making rank.

LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!

Valve will inevitably smack carpel tunnel hands, and not bots because of RULES, FAIR IS FAIR hypocrisy.

[Absche]

Originally posted by /muteall:

Originally posted by Absche:

Today players still do the same mistake („I have my 100 h but can’t play ranked“) but are then forever caught by the trench without a chance to retry.

I disagree, you can calibrate herald 1 and still climb. You don't need to be very good, you just need 2.5 braincells. I was herald 1, now I am archon 1, and my coach tells me I play like legend. You can always climb out, don't blame anything other than yourself, because if you put a good player he will climb out in a week, so it means you just need to focus on yourself, and there is always chance for you to improve. Blaming others or the system or "the trenches" will not help you get out. Only you can help yourself get out, if you want to.

Besides, you can always just play to improve and recalibrate. My guardian/crusader friend recalibrated to archon 3 and almost hit ancient. It is not impossible, it is only hard.

Thanks for your reply. I'm completely with you. Just be good enough to overcome the unrealiabilities and you are good. Still we had those cases at that time where starting from scratch was more succesful regarding the achieved skill ceiling than proceeding on your first account. And even faster.

[ixthid the desolate]

Originally posted by Absche:

Originally posted by /muteall:

I disagree, you can calibrate herald 1 and still climb. You don't need to be very good, you just need 2.5 braincells. I was herald 1, now I am archon 1, and my coach tells me I play like legend. You can always climb out, don't blame anything other than yourself, because if you put a good player he will climb out in a week, so it means you just need to focus on yourself, and there is always chance for you to improve. Blaming others or the system or "the trenches" will not help you get out. Only you can help yourself get out, if you want to.

Besides, you can always just play to improve and recalibrate. My guardian/crusader friend recalibrated to archon 3 and almost hit ancient. It is not impossible, it is only hard.

Thanks for your reply. I'm completely with you. Just be good enough to overcome the unrealiabilities and you are good. Still we had those cases at that time where starting from scratch was more succesful regarding the achieved skill ceiling than proceeding on your fisrt account. And even faster.

Yes, people are tempted to go the easy route. They have 200 games experience on last account + also new account so they will be better and when they play against new players rank higher on calibration. But as we know it is wrong because it artificially places them low rank each time anyone tries to reset.

I forgot to mention that today there are so many youtube guides, in game guides, twitch streamers, coaching (paid or free), you can always contact immortals and ask for assistance, reddit (which is kind of retarded) and discord etc. People have many ways to improve. I myself found many pros who you can talk to and ask for free advice on stream, in social media, etc.

[ixthid the desolate]

Originally posted by Andrew ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Ramirez is back.:

Originally posted by /muteall:

if you have massive game knowledge but play like crusader then you are just bad
you don't need to click fast to be divine, you need brain so that you don't feed and ur on the correct part of the map always

if you don't make a new account, you ruin high mmr games
if you make a new account, you ruin low mmr games and risk getting banned
you're going to ruin games anyway, just don't risk getting banned xd

if you cannot play anymore, then stop playing
just don't ruin any games xd
get surgery or just stop dota and things that use your hands a lot completely

because you can say you are in a tough spot, but it is not the fault of the 100s of people on your and enemy team, they are not supposed to suffer for you

Good troll comment, I almost caved in man, close.

"I want to smurf :("
"no it's bad"
"good troll comment"

[AerSilver ♞]

Originally posted by Andrew ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Ramirez is back.:

Before anyone gets mad or says something dumb about it being unfair

Only unfair thing here is the current matchmaking system that screws you over regardless of your skill level just because you won some games.

Originally posted by Andrew ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Ramirez is back.:

is it still not fair to make a new account where I belong?

If you have more than 1 account that you use for dota,they consider it unfair.