Venomancer is terrible suck. Now it's unplayable. Skill 2&3 and shard are trash 100 with 0 damage

[Panda Assassin]

I love Venomancer, from a good support now he is so trash. The only thing he has is 1 slow. skill 2 and skill 3 are useless trash with 0 damage, slow 14% means nothing, 6 wards hit 1 enemy 5%HP and can't kill, enemy can just kill all wards and get more gold. Enemy team has a healer can counter Veno, once enemy team buy pipe or guardiance greave Veno is total useless. Lion, Disruptor, CM, Orge, Jakiro, Sand King... are all much better. Compare Lion and Veno you will see how stupid Veno is. And even Veno slow suck, cast time too slow and miss all the time.

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[ʍolɟ ǝɥʇ ǝsɹǝʌǝɹ]

the slow is applied seperately from hero and ward. thats 28% slow with both. But slow isn't meta right now anyway.

[AerSilver ♞]

Veno is more than fine, maybe the way you play him is the problem

[Panda Assassin]

I matched and fight against other support like Lion, CM, Orge, Lich, WD, Disruptor, Undying, Jakiro, Dazzle, Warlock, Venge. They hit me very hard, they stun me, and 2 stuns + hits can kill me. I buy the Falcon Blade and Tranquil boots so I have some HP, HP&Mana regen. But I always have to die at least 1 time before I can get these 2 items. Lion, CM, Undying, WD literally can solo kill me as support, the rest of support hit me hard. I hit them 0 damage, skill 2 is sh..t they have a regen ring I do nothing to them, skill 3 is sh..t, they laugh and break my wards for gold. I fight them to put ward and deward but they kill me easy. I try to come shot Q and run but the skill is slow and sometimes miss and I can't run they target me with stun then I'm death. I have to take care of hard carry and he can't do anything to save me. Veno is trash, very sh..t, compare to other support, and skill 2 and 3 and shard is useless

[Panda Assassin]

Originally posted by ʍolɟ ǝɥʇ ǝsɹǝʌǝɹ:

the slow is applied desperately from hero and ward. thats 28% slow with both. But slow isn't meta right now anyway.

Late game skill 2 and 3 is useless totally, I put ward and have to manually choose ward attack enemy hero, and it does 0 damage 6 wards can't kill 1 enemy 5%HP, and people have BKB, dispel, buff speed, and the slow doesn't do anything to shooter, how about Sniper, Drow, OD, Viper, Dragon. Veno has low HP, support with low gold can't get item. I played 30 games as Venomancer already and 22 lose.

[Panda Assassin]

Originally posted by AerSilver🗲:

Veno is more than fine, maybe the way you play him is the problem

No definitely he is very bad. Go to rank and pick Veno play and show me 20 games and see. I played 30 games got 22 lose