Dota 2
What hero has the most counters?
Counter picks, items, or even strategies. Basically who has the greatest chance of being shut down simply because there are so many counters to their hero?

Would also be great to note if you consider the hero to be balanced or could use some improvement.

Edit: I am kind of newish and need to know who not to pick.
Last edited by Black Light; Mar 5, 2016 @ 3:01pm
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Myst?c Mar 5, 2016 @ 3:25pm 
riki
Grantorino Mar 5, 2016 @ 3:27pm 
Originally posted by blade.blaster56745:
riki

haha I thought this as well. He does fak all.
The_Technomancer Mar 5, 2016 @ 3:30pm 
It's between Riki and Phantom Assassin. Riki is just terrible at practically everything except maybe scouting and requires tremendous farm to become good but can still be countered then by something of a force staff. Phantom Assassin actually specializes in high damage crits and can become a monster if left alone. That's just it she's unstoppable until someone tries to stop her. A simple silveredge, early game nuker, and/or gank shuts her down very quickly.
Alumic Mar 5, 2016 @ 3:31pm 
hmm
. Mar 5, 2016 @ 3:32pm 
Templar Assassin.
Black Light Mar 5, 2016 @ 3:42pm 
Could we get little bit more information on why they have the most counters?

Templar I have only played a few times but she seems somewhat strong.
ナルゴ Mar 5, 2016 @ 4:12pm 
Brood mother

Invisibility detection - Counters Spin Web invisibility. Bounty Hunter and Slardar Ult, Wards, Dust.
Area of effect abilities - Counters broodlings and allows heroes to damage her without actually seeing her.
Disarm, Evasion, Hex - Like most rightclickers, if broodmother is unable to attack, then she is can't to do much of anything else.
Break - Counters her Passive attack modifier
Slow - Makes an already slow hero even more slugglish or negate her Web bonus movement entirely

Originally posted by 「Pliskin」:
Originally posted by blade.blaster56745:
riki

haha I thought this as well. He does fak all.

lol, I thought of this to, there is one game where our support counter riki with ward + dagon.
poor riki.

Originally posted by Nargo:
Brood mother

Invisibility detection - Counters Spin Web invisibility. Bounty Hunter and Slardar Ult, Wards, Dust.
Area of effect abilities - Counters broodlings and allows heroes to damage her without actually seeing her.
Disarm, Evasion, Hex - Like most rightclickers, if broodmother is unable to attack, then she is can't to do much of anything else.
Break - Counters her Passive attack modifier
Slow - Makes an already slow hero even more slugglish or negate her Web bonus movement entirely
Second. Also things that do more damage the more targets there are like axe, earth shaker, elder titan, and legion. Not to mention high damage AoE make the spiderlings into just easy money for the enemy especially for alch. Alch loves to play against brood, it's like easy mode.

Another easy counter is ursa. Just get a single slow, like veno or qop, and you can kite him for days.
Last edited by The Ghost Pyro From Outerspace!!; Mar 5, 2016 @ 5:07pm
. Mar 5, 2016 @ 5:51pm 
Maybe I'll list some out:
Drow - PA, Bloodseeker, Spectre, Weaver, Manta, Bkb, etc.
PL - Earthshaker, Sven, PA, Luna, Dusa, BattleFury, etc.
Ursa - Drow, Qop, Venomancer, Weaver, Clinkz, Stuns, Slows, etc.
Dusa - Nyx, AM, Invoker.
Morphling - PA, AM, Riki, Sniper, etc.
Luna - Sniper, Drow, Slark, Spectre, Nature, Lina, Juggernaut, etc.
TA - PL, Naga, CK, Spectre, Sniper, Lich, Dazzle, Alchemist, Radiance, Assault Cuirass, Manta, etc.
WK - PL, AM, Invoker.
PA - Razor, MKB, Juggernaut, Bane, etc.
Juggernaut - Drow, TA, Weaver.
RBO|Beanie Mar 5, 2016 @ 6:13pm 
Originally posted by Prince Costanzo:
Maybe I'll list some out:
Drow - PA, Bloodseeker, Spectre, Weaver, Manta, Bkb, etc.
PL - Earthshaker, Sven, PA, Luna, Dusa, BattleFury, etc.
Ursa - Drow, Qop, Venomancer, Weaver, Clinkz, Stuns, Slows, etc.
Dusa - Nyx, AM, Invoker.
Morphling - PA, AM, Riki, Sniper, etc.
Luna - Sniper, Drow, Slark, Spectre, Nature, Lina, Juggernaut, etc.
TA - PL, Naga, CK, Spectre, Sniper, Lich, Dazzle, Alchemist, Radiance, Assault Cuirass, Manta, etc.
WK - PL, AM, Invoker.
PA - Razor, MKB, Juggernaut, Bane, etc.
Juggernaut - Drow, TA, Weaver.

This are mostly not heroes he should not pick tho. PA is the only really bad one, the rest is great IMO.
And Riki, Sniper as a Morphling counter..what ?
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