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SUPER IDOL DE XIAO RONG 2016 年 2 月 26 日 下午 11:42
soo what happened with 2gd?
i mean, i know that he was fired from the shanghai majors. but james is one of my favourite guys, cna someone tell me a brief explainination of his story of getting kicked?
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Damnagic 2016 年 2 月 27 日 上午 7:12 
I think glorious Lord Gaben should queue for some games to get a grasp of what is considered crass in Dota.

Actually maybe not.. he could end up crying and /wristing due to good ol' regular dota banter.
derw4tz 2016 年 2 月 27 日 上午 7:16 
just found this:

Two things:

1) James. We've had issues with James at previous events. Some Valve people lobbied to bring him back for Shanghai, feeling that he deserved another chance. That was a mistake. James is an ass, and we won't be working with him again.

2) As long as we're firing people, we are also firing the production company that we've been working with on the Shanghai Major. They will be replaced, and we hope to get this turned around before the main event.

As always, I can be reached at gaben@valvesoftware.com.

Gabe

source: https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/47sc46/update_from_the_shanghai_major/

godspeed Gabe..... godspeed

im so glad that james is gone forever now, hes such an uncharismatic guy....
mooles mun 2016 年 2 月 27 日 上午 7:16 
引用自 ksn0va
To be fair to Valve, his antics this time were so far more off-color than any of his previous gigs.
no more so than any cs:go event panel, though

Valve was unprofessional and was, quite frankly, horribly in the wrong by firing James.

Have you even seen the recent panel? It's so bland and boring, nobody is saying anything, and everyone is uncomfortable all because they're afraid that putting a single toe out of line will get them fired without a warning.
最后由 mooles mun 编辑于; 2016 年 2 月 27 日 上午 7:17
billy 2016 年 2 月 27 日 上午 7:30 
Let's be fair to Valve , when your opening intro to a tournament is talking about how you masturbated to disabled chinses porn you cant really be surprised when you get sacked.

I think james is funny and i understand his point of view but lets not be childish and ridiculous , you cant use the C word , talka bout wanking and be surprised you were sacked.

引用自 mooles mun
Have you even seen the recent panel? It's so bland and boring, nobody is saying anything, and everyone is uncomfortable all because they're afraid that putting a single toe out of line will get them fired without a warning.

your just making up nosnense , there isnt even a panel being shown at the event since then so how can you say its bland when it doesnt even exist? lol . I don't think anyone is scared of being sacked as they arent silly enough to think its fine to talk about wanking to chinese disabled porn.
最后由 billy 编辑于; 2016 年 2 月 27 日 上午 7:36
Super Thing 2016 年 2 月 27 日 上午 7:49 
Valve screwed up, 2gd is a great caster.

Many people like 2gd and the way Valve and Gabe handled this was completely wrong

Also redeye is an annoying caster, and I'm sick of hearing his crappy opinion and nasally voice
最后由 Super Thing 编辑于; 2016 年 2 月 27 日 上午 7:50
ksn0va 2016 年 2 月 27 日 上午 7:50 
引用自 mooles mun
引用自 ksn0va
To be fair to Valve, his antics this time were so far more off-color than any of his previous gigs.
no more so than any cs:go event panel, though

Valve was unprofessional and was, quite frankly, horribly in the wrong by firing James.

Have you even seen the recent panel? It's so bland and boring, nobody is saying anything, and everyone is uncomfortable all because they're afraid that putting a single toe out of line will get them fired without a warning.

He was warned but he didn't listen. It was an unprofessional move to just remove him in the middle of the tournament, especially when they don't have a competent replacement who did the necessary prep work. It was a mistake by Valve to hire him in the first place when he did a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ job at TI4.

But at the end of the day it is Valve's tournament and they had to do something. KeyTV were terrible and their host was being insubordinate.

Valve takes most of the blame here but James isn't completely innocent either.

Also the 17 page google doc was a bit excessive when 1 page would've been enough. It looks like James is hell bent on looking like the victim.
Super Thing 2016 年 2 月 27 日 上午 7:53 
引用自 ksn0va


Also the 17 page google doc was a bit excessive when 1 page would've been enough. It looks like James is hell bent on looking like the victim.

As he explained he was defending his reputation
最后由 Super Thing 编辑于; 2016 年 2 月 27 日 上午 7:53
天才イタチ 2016 年 2 月 27 日 上午 7:56 
引用自 billy
your just making up nosnense , there isnt even a panel being shown at the event since then so how can you say its bland when it doesnt even exist? lol . I don't think anyone is scared of being sacked as they arent silly enough to think its fine to talk about wanking to chinese disabled porn.

There actually was a panel at some points. I didn't watch the entire thing (cause of timezone difference and me sleeping through the middle part), but I saw the first series and the last just now. There was no panel at the start of Day 3, but there was a panel at the end. There's even an oddshot on the reddit frontpage: http://oddshot.tv/shot/dotamajor-20160227123521109

I don't really like the panels either, they seem awkward and forced most of the time. However there's so much downtime, you kinda need them to keep the audience engaged, as most casual viewers would just be driven away from a lack of content in between series.
Taweret 2016 年 2 月 27 日 上午 7:57 
引用自 ksn0va
引用自 Koryiaki
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B061Rs4gw4zkCec35Q5v2r576e_Jd6pJfrT_5_GZ74I/preview

some light 17 page reading lol

tldr; valve doesn't like that his jokes upstaged their joke of a major (they told him to be himself, then proceeded to try and censor him)

To be fair to Valve, his antics this time were so far more off-color than any of his previous gigs.
because he was in his best form, better than ever. saying bottom ♥♥♥♥♥ is nothing considering casters in dota1 used terms such "ward ♥♥♥♥♥" on a daily basis.
ksn0va 2016 年 2 月 27 日 上午 8:06 
引用自 HATRED 06.01.2015
引用自 ksn0va

To be fair to Valve, his antics this time were so far more off-color than any of his previous gigs.
because he was in his best form, better than ever. saying bottom ♥♥♥♥♥ is nothing considering casters in dota1 used terms such "ward ♥♥♥♥♥" on a daily basis.

Ward ♥♥♥♥♥ isn't a term outside of the game, while the former is. Just gotta watch what words you put together. Monkey for example can be an endearing insult but put porch before it and it becomes a slur.
Gonza- 2016 年 2 月 27 日 上午 8:20 
He must've done something way off for Gaben to go to Reddit and out him as an ass.
Damnagic 2016 年 2 月 27 日 上午 8:24 
引用自 ksn0va
引用自 HATRED 06.01.2015
because he was in his best form, better than ever. saying bottom ♥♥♥♥♥ is nothing considering casters in dota1 used terms such "ward ♥♥♥♥♥" on a daily basis.

Ward ♥♥♥♥♥ isn't a term outside of the game, while the former is. Just gotta watch what words you put together. Monkey for example can be an endearing insult but put porch before it and it becomes a slur.
Why? My teammates from the previous game didn't watch what words they put together with "Kill yourself" as they were raging on the poor WR.
Are you trying to say that events of the game shouldn't represent the game and it's community, but instead lure in gullible little children to get abused for hours?
ksn0va 2016 年 2 月 27 日 上午 8:54 
引用自 Damnagic
引用自 ksn0va

Ward ♥♥♥♥♥ isn't a term outside of the game, while the former is. Just gotta watch what words you put together. Monkey for example can be an endearing insult but put porch before it and it becomes a slur.
Why? My teammates from the previous game didn't watch what words they put together with "Kill yourself" as they were raging on the poor WR.
Are you trying to say that events of the game shouldn't represent the game and it's community, but instead lure in gullible little children to get abused for hours?

Real life is filled with so much worse ♥♥♥♥. Doesn't mean we just take the bad and roll with it.
Qminoo 2016 年 2 月 27 日 下午 1:25 
引用自 ksn0va
引用自 Koryiaki
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B061Rs4gw4zkCec35Q5v2r576e_Jd6pJfrT_5_GZ74I/preview

some light 17 page reading lol

tldr; valve doesn't like that his jokes upstaged their joke of a major (they told him to be himself, then proceeded to try and censor him)

To be fair to Valve, his antics this time were so far more off-color than any of his previous gigs.

You must not know James very good then. This whole clip is more offensive than anything he's done/said at the Major. But this part in particular. https://youtu.be/IKkkEMem-tc?t=33
ksn0va 2016 年 2 月 28 日 上午 4:51 
引用自 Qminoo
引用自 ksn0va

To be fair to Valve, his antics this time were so far more off-color than any of his previous gigs.

You must not know James very good then. This whole clip is more offensive than anything he's done/said at the Major. But this part in particular. https://youtu.be/IKkkEMem-tc?t=33

I know that James very well. That's just not the James that was in TI4 or any of the previous Valve hosted ones.

There are events where that ♥♥♥♥ is enocuraged. The Summit for example is a very casual tournament where players cast games and generally do and say whatever they want.

Even Tobi had his moments where he went completely off the rails, but not when he was casting on a big stage.
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