Get rid the communication and behavior score system

[sedan delivery]

This system is hostile to players and any sort of rehabilitation. I'm only getting teamed with players who I can't communicate with, can't communicate because their comms were disabled, or otherwise seem deadset on contributing toward a frustrating experience. When I had perfect in both scores and I was getting teammates who would communicate and try their best. Now I don't. This is doing nothing to improve or rehabilitate. I'm not renewing dota plus as long as the game insists on gimping my experience.

If a player is deemed disruptive just ban them for a week. Don't put them in gimped state where they can't play the game

[76561198110152881]

you put money to dota2 :D
bro its pain to play it for free

and u even support those tards who are destroying dota game

spend money on nice food or something enjoyable :-))

[frano;p]

yeeeeeee

[sedan delivery]

Originally posted by Corey bel:

If you're in the "red" category of accounts, the only way to grind back to normal gameplay is by literally sitting through hundreds of hours with crappy people who don't take anything seriously in DOTA. I don't recommend this unless you have the resources and time for it. I tried for the last 4-5 weeks, and fortunately have found solace in a new account that I'm being careful not to destroy by breaking the rules. The 3 month cooldown will give me the time I need to learn linear algebra, calculus, and statistics. By the time I come back from bootcamp, I';ll be able to play ranked Dota again that I've been waiting for since 2013.

It's a matter of how much patience you have to not let the worst possible teammates bother you. Since the game has all kinds of checks under the hood, many automated, yeah it's just very difficult, because often those same people will throw reports at you, even if you're trying to play normally while they're throwing, keeping you in the cesspool with them. Honestly, if your score is low enough to be getting teammates who don't take it seriously, you're better off playing on a new account and taking care of it. At the very least, they let you do this.

If you're willing to play through hundreds to thousands of hours with people who afk farm and don't rotate and throw on purpose, willing to play a 1v9 version of Dota, then do it. I just tried enough and realize continuing would be bad for my future and overall health, that's just me.

Yeah that's exactly what's happening and I'm not sure why. I'm not even red. This trend started while my comm score was still green around 10k. My behavior score is still 10k-11k.

I'm not sure how this system isn't acknowledged by development as completely hostile to improving behavior. If the system in place views a player as disruptive they should ban them outright for a period of time to sit out and cooldown. Otherwise you're saying that there are players that deserve to have the deck stacked against them by exclusively teaming them with problematic players with no avenue out. It's vindictive by design.

[Eric]

Whoever thought 6k for a threshold for a comm mute should not have been allowed to work on this game.

[ISO: QUESTIONS]

This is a pathetic job of making this game less toxic. I just got done in a ranked role queue where I was the offlaner and my alleged support picked a Drow and started stealing farm. I was forced to farm the jungle and had to stay there for awhile to farm my items to counter the team we were facing. Finally I got all the items I needed to push towers. We ended up winning. After the game I was rewarded with a 7 hour ban and god knows how many ginkcuf low priority games I'll be assessed on top of this bs system. I haven't been able to speak in over 100 games and I haven't abandoned any games. So, VALVE'S bs system is hurting players that know how to play this game and rewarding toxic behavior by players that aren't playing their queued roles. This is qinkcuf tihsllub. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF DOTA CHANGE THE PARAMETERS OF YOUR GINKCUF Behavior system before I quit and you won't ever see me on steam spending a GINKCUF dime on your platform. KCUF UOY VALVE!

[Az]

I confirm that if you get blacklisted you get teammates that play for the opposite team. I had a series of 20 matches where I simply had absolutely no chance of winning due to teammates that were laughing when they were feeding intentionally.

[Absche]

Originally posted by Az:

I confirm that if you get blacklisted you get teammates that play for the opposite team. I had a series of 20 matches where I simply had absolutely no chance of winning due to teammates that were laughing when they were feeding intentionally.

Sometimes it‘s more fun to run downhill laughing instead of uphill crying. Think about what design feature cause this behavior.

[Baby Stalin]

progressively everyone is getting muted. I've had another 2 turbo games in a run with only 2 players who could chat.

[ДОЛМАстер]

I'm afraid to tell on my allies, because I'll get a report, pinging on items already banned

[Baby Stalin]

Yeah, its really bad. Another Turbo game I played last night had literally everyone silent. Everyone is either banned or scared of being banned from chatting.

[Cyril Thick Ass]

Valve fix your ♥♥♥♥ i lose comm score for saying "kill that ♥♥♥♥♥♥" but someone thats constantly spouting the N-word doesnt have any action taken against them????

[1776]

I agree, they should remove the entire system. Stop being ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Talking trash is 50% of the online experience and in my view, not an anti-competitive behavior.

Griefing on the other hand is anti-competitive behavior and should be dealt with harshly.

[will]

Originally posted by Ron The Anime God:

This system is hostile to players and any sort of rehabilitation. I'm only getting teamed with players who I can't communicate with, can't communicate because their comms were disabled, or otherwise seem deadset on contributing toward a frustrating experience. When I had perfect in both scores and I was getting teammates who would communicate and try their best. Now I don't. This is doing nothing to improve or rehabilitate. I'm not renewing dota plus as long as the game insists on gimping my experience.

If a player is deemed disruptive just ban them for a week. Don't put them in gimped state where they can't play the game

It's been like this forever. you can't play the game as soon as you are solo, and don't pay enough. you'll be paired with 4 morons against 5 simulations of TI winners.

but +1 for some things.
I personnally can't ping someone ability to help him survive. or hint that he should wait (for his ulti etc).

- because of what?
- because I abandon 3 turbo game BEFORE 1st sec of the game, at picking phase. weeks ago.
why did I abandon those 3 turbos? because the game persisted to make all possible moves to prevent me from playing 1 specific hero for 4-5 games.
(and it was not a hero that is banned a lot).

I had NEVER ping someone to give him bad advise or to be toxic. I know who I am.
(and it's easy to verify).

So I think you are right on some point.
After you type "you should wait your ulti ", instead of ping to display the ulti is on refresh for 20 sec, you get a toxic chat report or something ( because the guy is dead in between) instead of a live mate. and next time you'll not be able to talk.
so , well. there is a problem here.

And not beeing able to talk in a coop game WITH HUMANS is not ok.

[Omniknight Who Says Ni!]

Just another voice to add to the choir. Losing comm score for begging your team to stop feeding in an area that has no wards whilst we're setting up for torm and rosh is not a good system.

They're literally throwing the game at the 4th time of asking politely, which imo is absolutely griefing. Meanwhile the guy trying to organise anything resembling objective play gets a mute. Absolutely idiotic system.

I can see where the logic comes from though, it's the same logic amongst all the elites.

Let the bad apples rob that poor guys store, when he inevitably takes action or complains about it we'll prosecute him!

Something very wrong with this world.

[Venom Raven]

Maybe you shouldn't have been toxic to other people. Not so fun when everyone else on your game is just as toxic as you is it?