Abandon timer is too strict

[CNC]

My internet went out, I ran downstairs and turned my modem off, then rebooted and I was back in game in less than 5 minutes because I was counting, and I still got an abandon.

WTF. I then played my hardest and we won. I feel like this should not be counted as an abandon. If someone drops for a couple of minutes that sucks but it's pretty obvious that they didn't do it intentionally, it's not the same as just leaving the game.

This game is just so punishing. Yes, if you're perfect and never do anything wrong, maybe you'll be okay, but if you drop to a low behaviour score and you try to change your attitude/behaviour and climb back up, it seems absolutely impossible. If Dota was the justice system, everyone would just get the death sentence for their first serious offence.

[AIR]

You don't get instant LP for One Abandon. It sucks, but it was nice of you to come back, try hard, and still win. I bet you got commended, instead of reported.

Thing is, the 5 minute rule was tested and tried, and it is really "gg" when someone goes out for so long, because honestly the game is pretty much ruined. And a lot of people don't come back, or some "come back and see the abandon and leave".

Abandon rules are harsh, but they must be, otherwise there is just too much abuse and too many people quitting. My advice to you is:

Have a phone, with internet connection, nearby. Plug it and share the internet. If you are not listening to music, just playing dota, this can save you until the main internet comes back. It saved me many times, and in my country the internet plans are garbage and expesive when it comes to sell phones, but maybe it can be worthwhile for you.

[CNC]

Originally posted by Deck Card: Cain:

You don't get instant LP for One Abandon. It sucks, but it was nice of you to come back, try hard, and still win. I bet you got commended, instead of reported.

Thing is, the 5 minute rule was tested and tried, and it is really "gg" when someone goes out for so long, because honestly the game is pretty much ruined. And a lot of people don't come back, or some "come back and see the abandon and leave".

Abandon rules are harsh, but they must be, otherwise there is just too much abuse and too many people quitting. My advice to you is:

Have a phone, with internet connection, nearby. Plug it and share the internet. If you are not listening to music, just playing dota, this can save you until the main internet comes back. It saved me many times, and in my country the internet plans are garbage and expesive when it comes to sell phones, but maybe it can be worthwhile for you.

I didn't say I went to LP. The problem is that climbing BS takes forever. This whole system is so insanely punishing. You could play like a jerk for a couple of months and drop BS at the age of 16 or whatever, and then decide to stop being a jerk and actually play like a nice, mature person, and years could go by before you'd climb back up. It really does seem that there is no way to salvage your account once it drops below a certain level.

I fully admit I raged a lot, but I'm talking in like 2015. My BS dropped down to 5k. I stopped playing for years. I came back and it's unimaginably bad.

I'm not bullshitting, I can honestly say I don't rage at all anymore and I play like a team player every game. I have had some internet problems and I feel like I've abandoned a lot, but I just looked at my history and I abandoned 6 games in the last 100. Is that a lot? It's enough that my BS dropped from 5k down to 3300. Obviously people aren't reporting me for comms abuse because I can't communicate. At all.

I really try my best every game. I'm actually not bad at the game. Most games my hero dmg and building dmg are the highest on my team, my KDR is highest or second highest. When I play support I actually support. But no matter what, the behaviour score just won't increase.

Meanwhile, I have people throwing games. I have people destroying items or going afk in the jungle for the entire game. Somehow these people don't get banned, I don't know, but I play as best as I can and I'm not too bad at the game, and no matter what I do I can't climb.

Yeah, the phone thing - I had forgotten about that. See, I didn't play Dota for so long that I forgot that, yeah, you need to have a hotspot ready just in case your internet cuts out. I'll do that now, I guess... if I even want to keep playing. Honestly this game does everything it can to convince you to stop playing it. I used to drop money on this game and now I don't. If I can't climb out of low BS hell, why spend any money on it? There are so many other games to play, too, I feel kind of stupid playing Dota.

I didn't play the game for 7 years, you'd think they would let my BS reset. It's pretty insane that I'm punished for bad behaviour from 2013-2015 when I've been playing nice for many months now.

[AIR]

Originally posted by Midori-No-Kinoko:

Originally posted by Deck Card: Cain:

You don't get instant LP for One Abandon. It sucks, but it was nice of you to come back, try hard, and still win. I bet you got commended, instead of reported.

Thing is, the 5 minute rule was tested and tried, and it is really "gg" when someone goes out for so long, because honestly the game is pretty much ruined. And a lot of people don't come back, or some "come back and see the abandon and leave".

Abandon rules are harsh, but they must be, otherwise there is just too much abuse and too many people quitting. My advice to you is:

Have a phone, with internet connection, nearby. Plug it and share the internet. If you are not listening to music, just playing dota, this can save you until the main internet comes back. It saved me many times, and in my country the internet plans are garbage and expesive when it comes to sell phones, but maybe it can be worthwhile for you.

I didn't say I went to LP. The problem is that climbing BS takes forever. This whole system is so insanely punishing. You could play like a jerk for a couple of months and drop BS at the age of 16 or whatever, and then decide to stop being a jerk and actually play like a nice, mature person, and years could go by before you'd climb back up. It really does seem that there is no way to salvage your account once it drops below a certain level.

I fully admit I raged a lot, but I'm talking in like 2015. My BS dropped down to 5k. I stopped playing for years. I came back and it's unimaginably bad.

I'm not bullshitting, I can honestly say I don't rage at all anymore and I play like a team player every game. I have had some internet problems and I feel like I've abandoned a lot, but I just looked at my history and I abandoned 6 games in the last 100. Is that a lot? It's enough that my BS dropped from 5k down to 3300. Obviously people aren't reporting me for comms abuse because I can't communicate. At all.

I really try my best every game. I'm actually not bad at the game. Most games my hero dmg and building dmg are the highest on my team, my KDR is highest or second highest. When I play support I actually support. But no matter what, the behaviour score just won't increase.

Meanwhile, I have people throwing games. I have people destroying items or going afk in the jungle for the entire game. Somehow these people don't get banned, I don't know, but I play as best as I can and I'm not too bad at the game, and no matter what I do I can't climb.

Yeah, the phone thing - I had forgotten about that. See, I didn't play Dota for so long that I forgot that, yeah, you need to have a hotspot ready just in case your internet cuts out. I'll do that now, I guess... if I even want to keep playing. Honestly this game does everything it can to convince you to stop playing it. I used to drop money on this game and now I don't. If I can't climb out of low BS hell, why spend any money on it? There are so many other games to play, too, I feel kind of stupid playing Dota.

I didn't play the game for 7 years, you'd think they would let my BS reset. It's pretty insane that I'm punished for bad behaviour from 2013-2015 when I've been playing nice for many months now.

Phone thing is definetly good. Dota has change, a lot. And the new behavior system is being "calibrated", it was announced a comple months ago, and we had 2 ban wave, massives, of smurfs and now it's now allowed to have to accounts: anyone.

They didn't a reset on behavior, I think because there are so many people under 2k behavior that it would ruin the games of ther people if they reseted it.

My advice? Spam casual / turbo, and "play the nice guy". I have the other post with the reports and bulletins updates, I don't use chat, I'm not abusive, but still I got reported. I recently decided to commend all the 9 players, and it seems to defuse some of itç

I mean, we are really struggling with the system being strick and harsh, so we are having to adapt. I believe they are doing it intentionally, to really get rid of toxic accounts and all that, they have revamped the whole user interface and the profile, so that means they are building the structure. I was hoping this would be Frostivus, but it seems like its gonna take the next update / hero delivery for the event.

Game is in a great stage right now. Roshan having a twin gate to walk to and changing between day and night was a good solution, the large map is good - still take some use for poeople that been out for long.

Just don't go ranked yet. Get used to the new ways people are using chat lines to communicate instead of spending a lot of time texting as it if it was a discussion board. They are aiming toward less abusive communication and more use of the chat lines, that are universally translated.

[Grimmz]

i had power outages the other week and i got like 3 abandons all in all but i never got harsh punishments because i'm not a repeat offender or toxic in general. all i got was some cooldown from queuing.

but yeah at 3rd abandon i stopped playing and decided to wait for them to fix the power in my area, so yeah even tho i have no control over the power going out, i can still choose to not play and risk a ban.

yeah i guess the time to get back can be seen as too short, but when you think about the other players who are waiting for you, to them it feels long. it would suck to have to wait for someone for that long.

its nobodys fault that your hardware or connection is faulty at times but when you make a conscious decision to queue when in fact there might be a chance that you'd get booted out, thats where the problem is. don't play the game if you think you cannot commit to a full match. i completely own that, i knew my power might go down but i still pressed queue, 100% my responsibility.

i'll queue again when i know for a fact that everything is fixed and in working order.

[AIR]

Originally posted by Grimmz:

i had power outages the other week and i got like 3 abandons all in all but i never got harsh punishments because i'm not a repeat offender or toxic in general. all i got was some cooldown from queuing.

but yeah at 3rd abandon i stopped playing and decided to wait for them to fix the power in my area, so yeah even tho i have no control over the power going out, i can still choose to not play and risk a ban.

yeah i guess the time to get back can be seen as too short, but when you think about the other players who are waiting for you, to them it feels long. it would suck to have to wait for someone for that long.

its nobodys fault that your hardware or connection is faulty at times but when you make a conscious decision to queue when in fact there might be a chance that you'd get booted out, thats where the problem is. don't play the game if you think you cannot commit to a full match. i completely own that, i knew my power might go down but i still pressed queue, 100% my responsibility.

i'll queue again when i know for a fact that everything is fixed and in working order.

100%.

You have to think about the players waiting for you, even if they are trying to respect the pause, are betting on a solo, unknown player, to come or not back. So it's more than 5 minutes if you are at good behavior and is not a repeating offender. It's a safeguard against abusers, you just have to adapt for it.

[:D]

did you count to 300 ?

[CNC]

Well, I just checked, and yup, I'm back in LPQ, for FIVE (5) games!! I didn't abandon in 18 games and yet I get a 5 game penalty.

It's like Vavle is telling me I shouldn't play dota, I'm not welcome. It's such a miserable experience for me so I should leave, as if I'm ruining dota.

But am I? I just checked and I have 43 abandons in 10 years, 6 in the last 100 games. I get it, when your teammate abandons, it sucks, and I get why they need to crack down on it. But, meanwhile, in my games, in at least 50% of my games, people do stuff like

-pick support and then sit there fighting me for last hits so that I can't farm as a core, and completely ruin my game and thus ruin the game for the entire team

-afk farm the map border jungle camps for the entire game and don't contribute anything and thus throw the game


I'd much rather have someone abandon than do either of those things. Yet people do that all the time and they don't seem to be punished. Valve punishes abandons with extreme strictness, like it's the worst thing you could do, but it's not. If your teammate abandons you get some extra gold and still have a chance. If your teammate goes afk in the jungle, you get nothing. If your support fights you for cs in the lane then your game is really screwed.

True game-throwing/ruining behaviour isn't punished because people keep doing it so they're obviously not getting banned or put in LPQ.
But abandons? Yeah, no, there's zero tolerance for them. It makes no sense.

[Grimmz]

Originally posted by Midori-No-Kinoko:

True game-throwing/ruining behaviour isn't punished because people keep doing it so they're obviously not getting banned or put in LPQ.
But abandons? Yeah, no, there's zero tolerance for them. It makes no sense.

but abandoning IS game ruining/throwing behavior. so if you're getting punished, then yes they are getting punished lmao

[Grimmz]

you don't think abandoning is game ruining behavior?

some people leave games just because of their selfishness.

other people abandon because they can't help it, whether its hardware problem or connectivity problem.

but its impossible for Valve to tell which reason they abandoned for.
did they leave on their own or were they forced to leave?
bottom line is it needs to be punished. if you can't play for an hour, then don't play.

[CNC]

Originally posted by Grimmz:

Originally posted by Midori-No-Kinoko:

True game-throwing/ruining behaviour isn't punished because people keep doing it so they're obviously not getting banned or put in LPQ.
But abandons? Yeah, no, there's zero tolerance for them. It makes no sense.

but abandoning IS game ruining/throwing behavior. so if you're getting punished, then yes they are getting punished lmao

Abandoning a game can be game-ruining. It isn't always. It doesn't always determine the outcome of the game. The game I mentioned in the OP is a perfect example. We won. It's also not always intentional. Again, my example is a good example of this. I came back and helped us win. Obviously I didn't abandon on purpose.

But none of that matters because you missed the point. If abandons are going to be punished so severely, then ALL game ruining behaviour should be punished so severely.

If you queue up as position 5, pick crystal maiden, and then fight your PA for last -hits and just don't support at all, you have completely ruined the game. What you're doing in that case is worse than abandoning. Yes, it really is.

If you abandoned, it would be 4v5 but your team would at least have more gold, so it's like 4.2 v 5. By picking pos 5 and sitting there fighting for last hits, you've completely ruined the lane that your carry is in. 1/3 of the lanes are now lost for your team and your pos 1 is going to be completely shut out of the game unless the game goes 60+ mins. This scenario is MUCH WORSE than had you simply abandoned.

And yet, if you do this, you won't be punished.

THAT is what I'm complaining about. Blatant, intentional game-ruining behaviour is commonplace because obviously these people aren't being punished very much. The only behaviour that is sternly punished is abandons. I would be fine with abandons being punished so hard if the other forms of game-ruining behaviour were also punished as hard.

Not possible, you say? It sure is possible. Back in the days of Dota 1, this kind of behaviour would result in hard Battlenet and IP bans. If you went afk in the jungle all game, or if you picked position 5 and refused to support, you would get a hard ban. It would last 30 days on your first offense. If you kept doing it, you'd get a year long ban.

Yes, this meant people had to watch replays to give out the bans but guess what, this kind of behaviour was extremely rare, so it wasn't hard to find people to watch the replays. These hard bans were effective because I almost never saw behaviour like that.

Now, in Dota 2, the harsh treatment of abandons works. I almost never see abandons. Great. But all the other game-ruining behaviour? Yeah, it happens all the time. So what's the point? Honestly, what'st he point of playing Dota, a team game, when people do this ♥♥♥♥ all the time? It would be like trying to play baseball and the dude who's on first base decides to just run around in the outfield every time there's a pitch. It would be impossible to play the game. His team would lose.

[AIR]

Originally posted by Midori-No-Kinoko:

Originally posted by Grimmz:

but abandoning IS game ruining/throwing behavior. so if you're getting punished, then yes they are getting punished lmao

Abandoning a game can be game-ruining. It isn't always. It doesn't always determine the outcome of the game. The game I mentioned in the OP is a perfect example. We won. It's also not always intentional. Again, my example is a good example of this. I came back and helped us win. Obviously I didn't abandon on purpose.

But none of that matters because you missed the point. If abandons are going to be punished so severely, then ALL game ruining behaviour should be punished so severely.

If you queue up as position 5, pick crystal maiden, and then fight your PA for last -hits and just don't support at all, you have completely ruined the game. What you're doing in that case is worse than abandoning. Yes, it really is.

If you abandoned, it would be 4v5 but your team would at least have more gold, so it's like 4.2 v 5. By picking pos 5 and sitting there fighting for last hits, you've completely ruined the lane that your carry is in. 1/3 of the lanes are now lost for your team and your pos 1 is going to be completely shut out of the game unless the game goes 60+ mins. This scenario is MUCH WORSE than had you simply abandoned.

And yet, if you do this, you won't be punished.

THAT is what I'm complaining about. Blatant, intentional game-ruining behaviour is commonplace because obviously these people aren't being punished very much. The only behaviour that is sternly punished is abandons. I would be fine with abandons being punished so hard if the other forms of game-ruining behaviour were also punished as hard.

Not possible, you say? It sure is possible. Back in the days of Dota 1, this kind of behaviour would result in hard Battlenet and IP bans. If you went afk in the jungle all game, or if you picked position 5 and refused to support, you would get a hard ban. It would last 30 days on your first offense. If you kept doing it, you'd get a year long ban.

Yes, this meant people had to watch replays to give out the bans but guess what, this kind of behaviour was extremely rare, so it wasn't hard to find people to watch the replays. These hard bans were effective because I almost never saw behaviour like that.

Now, in Dota 2, the harsh treatment of abandons works. I almost never see abandons. Great. But all the other game-ruining behaviour? Yeah, it happens all the time. So what's the point? Honestly, what'st he point of playing Dota, a team game, when people do this ♥♥♥♥ all the time? It would be like trying to play baseball and the dude who's on first base decides to just run around in the outfield every time there's a pitch. It would be impossible to play the game. His team would lose.

I'm really sorry this happened, but as people pointed out: abandons are game ruining and harsh in Dota 2. I understand your frustration with the 5 LP games, but that can only mean you abandon on a regular basis or is having really, bad behavior in games - because LP usually goes 1, 3, 5 and so on.

Just accept it was a mistake - beyond your control - but still a mistake: and the system is bound to punish harshly, because really used to abuse abandon when the punishment was soft.

Try having a cellphone or a no break to have backup internet/power so you can at least keep up during abandons. Dota 2, by itself, with no music or youtube going on, consumes little data and demand little speed. Your ping will increase, but it's at least having a back up plan.

Sadly, Dota revolves around 10 players. If one just abandon, his whole team is probably, in most cases, loses - or some will just quits because playing 4x5 usually means lost. In a way, it's a negative thing, and it needs punihsment.

Good luck, try grabbing some friends to leave it quickly. It will take a long time, probably, because you need to WIN 5 games - a most welcomed change in the past, but now people seem to complain because "it is not just play anymore".

Again, I'm really sorry about the abandon and the punishment, but this forum is frequented by users, not developers that turns off bans. If you want to appeal to steam, go to "Help" - "Contact Steam Support" - but I believe they will say the same thing, cosidering what you described.

Have a nice day.

[CNC]

Originally posted by Deck Card: Cain:

Originally posted by Midori-No-Kinoko:

Abandoning a game can be game-ruining. It isn't always. It doesn't always determine the outcome of the game. The game I mentioned in the OP is a perfect example. We won. It's also not always intentional. Again, my example is a good example of this. I came back and helped us win. Obviously I didn't abandon on purpose.

But none of that matters because you missed the point. If abandons are going to be punished so severely, then ALL game ruining behaviour should be punished so severely.

If you queue up as position 5, pick crystal maiden, and then fight your PA for last -hits and just don't support at all, you have completely ruined the game. What you're doing in that case is worse than abandoning. Yes, it really is.

If you abandoned, it would be 4v5 but your team would at least have more gold, so it's like 4.2 v 5. By picking pos 5 and sitting there fighting for last hits, you've completely ruined the lane that your carry is in. 1/3 of the lanes are now lost for your team and your pos 1 is going to be completely shut out of the game unless the game goes 60+ mins. This scenario is MUCH WORSE than had you simply abandoned.

And yet, if you do this, you won't be punished.

THAT is what I'm complaining about. Blatant, intentional game-ruining behaviour is commonplace because obviously these people aren't being punished very much. The only behaviour that is sternly punished is abandons. I would be fine with abandons being punished so hard if the other forms of game-ruining behaviour were also punished as hard.

Not possible, you say? It sure is possible. Back in the days of Dota 1, this kind of behaviour would result in hard Battlenet and IP bans. If you went afk in the jungle all game, or if you picked position 5 and refused to support, you would get a hard ban. It would last 30 days on your first offense. If you kept doing it, you'd get a year long ban.

Yes, this meant people had to watch replays to give out the bans but guess what, this kind of behaviour was extremely rare, so it wasn't hard to find people to watch the replays. These hard bans were effective because I almost never saw behaviour like that.

Now, in Dota 2, the harsh treatment of abandons works. I almost never see abandons. Great. But all the other game-ruining behaviour? Yeah, it happens all the time. So what's the point? Honestly, what'st he point of playing Dota, a team game, when people do this ♥♥♥♥ all the time? It would be like trying to play baseball and the dude who's on first base decides to just run around in the outfield every time there's a pitch. It would be impossible to play the game. His team would lose.

I'm really sorry this happened, but as people pointed out: abandons are game ruining and harsh in Dota 2. I understand your frustration with the 5 LP games, but that can only mean you abandon on a regular basis or is having really, bad behavior in games - because LP usually goes 1, 3, 5 and so on.

Just accept it was a mistake - beyond your control - but still a mistake: and the system is bound to punish harshly, because really used to abuse abandon when the punishment was soft.

Try having a cellphone or a no break to have backup internet/power so you can at least keep up during abandons. Dota 2, by itself, with no music or youtube going on, consumes little data and demand little speed. Your ping will increase, but it's at least having a back up plan.

Sadly, Dota revolves around 10 players. If one just abandon, his whole team is probably, in most cases, loses - or some will just quits because playing 4x5 usually means lost. In a way, it's a negative thing, and it needs punihsment.

Good luck, try grabbing some friends to leave it quickly. It will take a long time, probably, because you need to WIN 5 games - a most welcomed change in the past, but now people seem to complain because "it is not just play anymore".

Again, I'm really sorry about the abandon and the punishment, but this forum is frequented by users, not developers that turns off bans. If you want to appeal to steam, go to "Help" - "Contact Steam Support" - but I believe they will say the same thing, cosidering what you described.

Have a nice day.

I'm over it, I have only 1 lpq game left.

What I really want is to have teammates that play the game. Maybe people need to be punished for throwing games, like going afk all game or picking support and not supporting.

[1776]

Originally posted by Midori-No-Kinoko:

Originally posted by Deck Card: Cain:

I'm really sorry this happened, but as people pointed out: abandons are game ruining and harsh in Dota 2. I understand your frustration with the 5 LP games, but that can only mean you abandon on a regular basis or is having really, bad behavior in games - because LP usually goes 1, 3, 5 and so on.

Just accept it was a mistake - beyond your control - but still a mistake: and the system is bound to punish harshly, because really used to abuse abandon when the punishment was soft.

Try having a cellphone or a no break to have backup internet/power so you can at least keep up during abandons. Dota 2, by itself, with no music or youtube going on, consumes little data and demand little speed. Your ping will increase, but it's at least having a back up plan.

Sadly, Dota revolves around 10 players. If one just abandon, his whole team is probably, in most cases, loses - or some will just quits because playing 4x5 usually means lost. In a way, it's a negative thing, and it needs punihsment.

Good luck, try grabbing some friends to leave it quickly. It will take a long time, probably, because you need to WIN 5 games - a most welcomed change in the past, but now people seem to complain because "it is not just play anymore".

Again, I'm really sorry about the abandon and the punishment, but this forum is frequented by users, not developers that turns off bans. If you want to appeal to steam, go to "Help" - "Contact Steam Support" - but I believe they will say the same thing, cosidering what you described.

Have a nice day.

I'm over it, I have only 1 lpq game left.

What I really want is to have teammates that play the game. Maybe people need to be punished for throwing games, like going afk all game or picking support and not supporting.

Until we get AI that analyzes every persons conduct and impact on the match and then provides the necessary encouragement for them to improve, or at least stop being stupid, this is the system we have. My suggestion is stop playing Dota. If you can't stop playing Dota, definitely stop making purchases. Loss of revenue spurs changes, not forum whining. In the end, this is a business. No one is going to give you a medal for sticking around and slogging through the terrible system. Those that are in charge must get the message through other means, like loss of profits.

[ʍolɟ ǝɥʇ ǝsɹǝʌǝɹ]

People used to pause. But that's not really true anymore.

Another upside to staying is that any ban timer will count down while you are still in that game. If it was early enough it could resolve with you never seeing 👀 it

[AIR]

Originally posted by Midori-No-Kinoko:

Originally posted by Deck Card: Cain:

I'm really sorry this happened, but as people pointed out: abandons are game ruining and harsh in Dota 2. I understand your frustration with the 5 LP games, but that can only mean you abandon on a regular basis or is having really, bad behavior in games - because LP usually goes 1, 3, 5 and so on.

Just accept it was a mistake - beyond your control - but still a mistake: and the system is bound to punish harshly, because really used to abuse abandon when the punishment was soft.

Try having a cellphone or a no break to have backup internet/power so you can at least keep up during abandons. Dota 2, by itself, with no music or youtube going on, consumes little data and demand little speed. Your ping will increase, but it's at least having a back up plan.

Sadly, Dota revolves around 10 players. If one just abandon, his whole team is probably, in most cases, loses - or some will just quits because playing 4x5 usually means lost. In a way, it's a negative thing, and it needs punihsment.

Good luck, try grabbing some friends to leave it quickly. It will take a long time, probably, because you need to WIN 5 games - a most welcomed change in the past, but now people seem to complain because "it is not just play anymore".

Again, I'm really sorry about the abandon and the punishment, but this forum is frequented by users, not developers that turns off bans. If you want to appeal to steam, go to "Help" - "Contact Steam Support" - but I believe they will say the same thing, cosidering what you described.

Have a nice day.

I'm over it, I have only 1 lpq game left.

What I really want is to have teammates that play the game. Maybe people need to be punished for throwing games, like going afk all game or picking support and not supporting.

I really advice you this, above all:

Find a guild. Find people to play as 5. That is the only way - and not really - to make sure you have teammates that will try as hard as you do, and some leadership. It' gives you also the option to GG out, and an edge against "mixed teams", be 2+3, 2+1+1+1, 2+2+1...

If you are gonna keep at solo, you gotta just keep in mind this:

Play your game, do your role properly, don't afk grief just because someone is doing. Losses will happen, grief is gonna happen, it's human natural behavior, sadly. But always remember to report, those that do wrong, in the end and, if you have dota +, to avoid those people.

We all are under the same situation, it happens to all of us. It is the reality.