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whol hors Jan 3, 2024 @ 9:25am
Same hero pick (not) ban in turbo and match rigging
So it was my third game of turbo of the day. I thought ok let's pick Phantom Assassins so I can finally get a win. I press to pick and the notification that a player on the enemy team picked her appeared. Oh, so she got banned, right? But lo and behold the enemy player somehow got her. Bruh moment. I hope this is a bug, but what an interesting time for a bug like this to appear. Just right to help make my lose streak longer.

I also got a Lifestealer that was losing lane against the PA. We actually had some chance to win even late game but he threw about 3 times.

Before this 3x lose streak I have an almost 4x winstreak, where my team was usually pretty nice and at least 1 player on the enemy team was horrible.
Last edited by whol hors; Jan 4, 2024 @ 1:44am
Originally posted by AerSilver ♞:
Nah man that's not a bug,that's how it goes in turbo as opposed to all pick.
He picked PA before you did so you picking PA only revealed what he already picked.
In all pick she would have been banned if that happened.

Also yes,matchmaking in this game is rigged and has been this way for a loooong time.
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AerSilver ♞ Jan 3, 2024 @ 10:40am 
Nah man that's not a bug,that's how it goes in turbo as opposed to all pick.
He picked PA before you did so you picking PA only revealed what he already picked.
In all pick she would have been banned if that happened.

Also yes,matchmaking in this game is rigged and has been this way for a loooong time.
whol hors Jan 3, 2024 @ 10:45am 
Originally posted by AerSilver🗲:
Nah man that's not a bug,that's how it goes in turbo as opposed to all pick.
He picked PA before you did so you picking PA only revealed what he already picked.
In all pick she would have been banned if that happened.

Also yes,matchmaking in this game is rigged and has been this way for a loooong time.
Oh ok, I suspected this after posting, thanks.
AIR Jan 3, 2024 @ 11:55am 
Originally posted by whol hors:
Originally posted by AerSilver🗲:
Nah man that's not a bug,that's how it goes in turbo as opposed to all pick.
He picked PA before you did so you picking PA only revealed what he already picked.
In all pick she would have been banned if that happened.

Also yes,matchmaking in this game is rigged and has been this way for a loooong time.
Oh ok, I suspected this after posting, thanks.

Turbo is a very casual mode, where they rather have faster queues with semi balanced games than full on balanced games with a long queue.

Streaks are an illusion. Toss a coin 100 times up, you will get a lot of string of wins and loss, not an even head, tail, head, tail - organized.

Don't complain about casual modes "balancing" they are just meant to have fun.

And if you are gonna badmouth your teammates, showing the game ID and humiliating them is against the forum guidelines. So just edit out the bad stuff.

Don't be mad about 10-15 games. You will be playing 10.000 - 15.000
whol hors Jan 4, 2024 @ 1:43am 
Originally posted by Deck Card: Cain:
Originally posted by whol hors:
Oh ok, I suspected this after posting, thanks.

Turbo is a very casual mode, where they rather have faster queues with semi balanced games than full on balanced games with a long queue.

Streaks are an illusion. Toss a coin 100 times up, you will get a lot of string of wins and loss, not an even head, tail, head, tail - organized.

Don't complain about casual modes "balancing" they are just meant to have fun.

And if you are gonna badmouth your teammates, showing the game ID and humiliating them is against the forum guidelines. So just edit out the bad stuff.

Don't be mad about 10-15 games. You will be playing 10.000 - 15.000
From my experience and from what I've read from others, matchmaking quality is pretty much the same across all modes. Your tossing coin example does not fit here because the coin does not start weighing in more on one of the sides. Dota 2 does not have such random matchmaking.

I'm not mad about 10-15 games. I started noticing this matchmaking behaviour since 1-2 years ago. Maybe it's more noticeable the higher you get in MMR and get to know the game better.
AIR Jan 4, 2024 @ 3:44am 
Originally posted by whol hors:
Originally posted by Deck Card: Cain:

Turbo is a very casual mode, where they rather have faster queues with semi balanced games than full on balanced games with a long queue.

Streaks are an illusion. Toss a coin 100 times up, you will get a lot of string of wins and loss, not an even head, tail, head, tail - organized.

Don't complain about casual modes "balancing" they are just meant to have fun.

And if you are gonna badmouth your teammates, showing the game ID and humiliating them is against the forum guidelines. So just edit out the bad stuff.

Don't be mad about 10-15 games. You will be playing 10.000 - 15.000
From my experience and from what I've read from others, matchmaking quality is pretty much the same across all modes. Your tossing coin example does not fit here because the coin does not start weighing in more on one of the sides. Dota 2 does not have such random matchmaking.

I'm not mad about 10-15 games. I started noticing this matchmaking behaviour since 1-2 years ago. Maybe it's more noticeable the higher you get in MMR and get to know the game better.

In Dota, the coin starts weighting more on one side after you win / lose too many in a row. It's not a system forced to keep you in place, it just will give you stronger oponents / weaker oponents based on your performance. They call it balancing teams, but matchmaking is random.

I've started noticing the matchmaking broken 12 years ago. Believe me, Solo Matchmaking will never be balanced because it is the definition of chaos. 10 random people, divided by two teams, aim to cooperate and not fight?

Just watch any reality show ever made. People turn on each other, it's our nature.
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