Dota 2
WHY OBSERVER WARD IS FREE?
WHY FREE?
There are always players who waste observer ward
I used the observer ward very effectively
but when my ally started buying it
We lost sight because lost sight on the map.
And the incompetent allies will soon buy up the ward and make the defeat accompany.

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Last edited by Nature's Prophet; Aug 13, 2020 @ 2:03pm
Originally posted by Taweret:
i personally dont like this change is very LoLish, free wards so noobs can see whole map.
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Grimmz Aug 13, 2020 @ 1:02pm 
why not?
Velovar Aug 13, 2020 @ 1:09pm 
Fits target audience (see the kids post above mine).
They will soon make it so each hero has his own ward like in LOL.
Nature's Prophet Aug 13, 2020 @ 2:09pm 
I buy even if observer ward is 100gold.
Why did Valve make it free?
idiot?
this is not league of legend
valve wanna be league of trash?
long years 75gold why changed?
Last edited by Nature's Prophet; Aug 13, 2020 @ 2:41pm
BossGalaga Aug 13, 2020 @ 2:37pm 
Originally posted by opero:
WHY FREE?
There are always players who waste observer ward
I used the observer ward very effectively
but when my ally started buying it
We lost sight because lost sight on the map.
And the incompetent allies will soon buy up the ward and make the defeat accompany.

So your problem isn't that observer wards are free but that you claim your allies aren't placing them effectively. So then use the ping system and tell your allies where you need/want vision or buy and place the observer wards yourself.
Ulthwé Aug 13, 2020 @ 2:42pm 
They used to be more expansive than 75 gold. Sentries used to be ought only by two for 200 gold. It was done to lighten the burden that was on support heroes and it is a good thing.
Nature's Prophet Aug 13, 2020 @ 2:58pm 
Originally posted by BossGalaga:
Originally posted by opero:
WHY FREE?
There are always players who waste observer ward
I used the observer ward very effectively
but when my ally started buying it
We lost sight because lost sight on the map.
And the incompetent allies will soon buy up the ward and make the defeat accompany.

So your problem isn't that observer wards are free but that you claim your allies aren't placing them effectively. So then use the ping system and tell your allies where you need/want vision or buy and place the observer wards yourself.

you blocked already
no need your comment
Last edited by Nature's Prophet; Aug 13, 2020 @ 2:58pm
Originally posted by opero:
Originally posted by BossGalaga:

So your problem isn't that observer wards are free but that you claim your allies aren't placing them effectively. So then use the ping system and tell your allies where you need/want vision or buy and place the observer wards yourself.

you blocked already
no need your comment

Yeah, because anyone who disagrees with you is toxic and unhelpful. As a hardcore Support player myself, I'm perfectly fine with a teammate planting the occasional ward themselves, even if it's suboptimal overall. I can always use the time I would've been warding to push out a lane (yes, Supports should farm in soloqueue). I'm hardly an infinite Notail master of warding myself, so unless someone's straight up blocking ally camps (which I have NEVER personally seen happen), I can't actually claim I would ward better than them.
Nature's Prophet Aug 13, 2020 @ 3:26pm 
Originally posted by Company Captain Yorshka:
Originally posted by opero:

you blocked already
no need your comment

Yeah, because anyone who disagrees with you is toxic and unhelpful. As a hardcore Support player myself, I'm perfectly fine with a teammate planting the occasional ward themselves, even if it's suboptimal overall. I can always use the time I would've been warding to push out a lane (yes, Supports should farm in soloqueue). I'm hardly an infinite Notail master of warding myself, so unless someone's straight up blocking ally camps (which I have NEVER personally seen happen), I can't actually claim I would ward better than them.

blocked
I would like some smarter people to comment.
Are you people who come from criticism?
I understand your still killing blackpeople
Last edited by Nature's Prophet; Aug 13, 2020 @ 3:30pm
BossGalaga Aug 13, 2020 @ 3:44pm 
Originally posted by opero:
Originally posted by Company Captain Yorshka:

Yeah, because anyone who disagrees with you is toxic and unhelpful. As a hardcore Support player myself, I'm perfectly fine with a teammate planting the occasional ward themselves, even if it's suboptimal overall. I can always use the time I would've been warding to push out a lane (yes, Supports should farm in soloqueue). I'm hardly an infinite Notail master of warding myself, so unless someone's straight up blocking ally camps (which I have NEVER personally seen happen), I can't actually claim I would ward better than them.

blocked
I would like some smarter people to comment.
Are you people who come from criticism?
I understand your still killing blackpeople

Who is "killing black people?"
The author of this thread has indicated that this post answers the original topic.
Taweret Aug 13, 2020 @ 3:51pm 
i personally dont like this change is very LoLish, free wards so noobs can see whole map.
BossGalaga Aug 13, 2020 @ 3:59pm 
Originally posted by Oblivion comes:
i personally dont like this change is very LoLish, free wards so noobs can see whole map.

If the game is easier for "noobs" as you say then it must also be easier for hardcore players like yourself, who get matched with and against noobs for some reason.
Taweret Aug 13, 2020 @ 4:05pm 
no, it makes it harder for hardcore players (no vision vs vision) but doesnt stop them from dominating, since sentry still cost gold and you can farm observers placed multiple times in most obvious spots. is a good patch for zeus though since he basically gets free gold every game lol
Ulthwé Aug 13, 2020 @ 4:17pm 
Originally posted by Oblivion comes:
i personally dont like this change is very LoLish, free wards so noobs can see whole map.

No one can see the whole map, if you can, that means you spared obs to use 6 at once which is q really bad way to play.
Ulthwé Aug 13, 2020 @ 4:18pm 
Originally posted by Oblivion comes:
no, it makes it harder for hardcore players (no vision vs vision) but doesnt stop them from dominating, since sentry still cost gold and you can farm observers placed multiple times in most obvious spots. is a good patch for zeus though since he basically gets free gold every game lol

Obs .ale really good baits to kill people that way too. If Zeus spends his time dewarding he isn't probably that useful. The gold he had on a ward could have easily been done on a creep wave.
BossGalaga Aug 13, 2020 @ 4:27pm 
Originally posted by Oblivion comes:
no, it makes it harder for hardcore players (no vision vs vision) but doesnt stop them from dominating, since sentry still cost gold and you can farm observers placed multiple times in most obvious spots. is a good patch for zeus though since he basically gets free gold every game lol

And would you say that you're a "hardcore player" and that everyone else is a noob?
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