When is this broken meta going to change?

[FaZaaa]

This patch is the worst i have ever seen on all the years ive played dota2 ogre magi is totally broken no support should be as strong as it is... omni knight tottally broken also!

[Storm Runner]

ogre magi is easy to fix stop his ulti procing on items

[Patwas]

I can't find what's ''totally broken'' with Ogre magi or Omni.

[Fenrir_El]

Originally posted by DBDstorm runner:

ogre magi is easy to fix stop his ulti procing on items

he's not broken, but no support should be able to take down 70-80% of your hp in couple of seconds with one spell that is not ultimate and the only item the ogre has is just midas.

[Mindless_Goblin]

how is ogre broken? Sure if he gets a 4X multicast he can deal a bit of dmg, but if you have a pipe or like a lotus you negate a lot of it or stun him back. But Lion also has a lot of burst dmg with ulti. And his ultimate can scale infinite wouldnt that make him broken? also just silence is a good way to stop him completly. But sure there are a lot of heroes that are in dire need of a balanceing act

[Ulthwé]

Originally posted by FaZaaa:

This patch is the worst i have ever seen on all the years ive played dota2 ogre magi is totally broken no support should be as strong as it is... omni knight tottally broken also!

How is ogre magic broken? A single lotus orb on the right target and he stuns himself, possibly four time in a row.

[Ulthwé]

Originally posted by No0ne:

Originally posted by DBDstorm runner:

ogre magi is easy to fix stop his ulti procing on items

he's not broken, but no support should be able to take down 70-80% of your hp in couple of seconds with one spell that is not ultimate and the only item the ogre has is just midas.

He won't take that chunk of your HP if you have bkb. He deals this much damages only on underfarmed support with greedy items.

[Fenrir_El]

Originally posted by Nagash:

Originally posted by No0ne:

he's not broken, but no support should be able to take down 70-80% of your hp in couple of seconds with one spell that is not ultimate and the only item the ogre has is just midas.

He won't take that chunk of your HP if you have bkb. He deals this much damages only on underfarmed support with greedy items.

um no.. he actually does tons of damage throughout the match. Supports who can dish out lots of damage, shouldn't be able to farm so quickly and supports who can farm waves/depush should rely more on items to do lots of damage (warlock with aghanim/refresher, cm with blink/bkb/glimmer, disruptor with aghanim, etc). Ogre, however, can just run around with midas alone, do tons of damage, soak a lot of damage too in early game. In mid game, he has enough items, damage and hp, that he becomes quite a pain to deal with. Not broken, but strong.

[Ulthwé]

Originally posted by No0ne:

Originally posted by Nagash:

He won't take that chunk of your HP if you have bkb. He deals this much damages only on underfarmed support with greedy items.

um no.. he actually does tons of damage throughout the match. Supports who can dish out lots of damage, shouldn't be able to farm so quickly and supports who can farm waves/depush should rely more on items to do lots of damage (warlock with aghanim/refresher, cm with blink/bkb/glimmer, disruptor with aghanim, etc). Ogre, however, can just run around with midas alone, do tons of damage, soak a lot of damage too in early game. In mid game, he has enough items, damage and hp, that he becomes quite a pain to deal with. Not broken, but strong.

If he goes midas first item your team should have crushed the lane early to punish that. If he has no other item he will be short and mana and have no escape.

[Fenrir_El]

Originally posted by Nagash:

Originally posted by No0ne:

um no.. he actually does tons of damage throughout the match. Supports who can dish out lots of damage, shouldn't be able to farm so quickly and supports who can farm waves/depush should rely more on items to do lots of damage (warlock with aghanim/refresher, cm with blink/bkb/glimmer, disruptor with aghanim, etc). Ogre, however, can just run around with midas alone, do tons of damage, soak a lot of damage too in early game. In mid game, he has enough items, damage and hp, that he becomes quite a pain to deal with. Not broken, but strong.

If he goes midas first item your team should have crushed the lane early to punish that. If he has no other item he will be short and mana and have no escape.

I am in 2,5k mmr :) I bet midas ogre gets punished only at 5-6k mmr and higher. I played with ancients and they don't really think of punishing greed either.