Dota 2
egg Mar 16, 2016 @ 4:39am
Practice with bots?? With stupid ally bots??
Practicing with bots is stupid, if you play on hard-unfair. you are almost guaranteed to lose. Does anyone have a script for the bots? custom scripts?? please?. really need it to practice. since i always practice with bots almost everyday before going pub. but its stupid practicing with hard-unfair bots just make me feel like ♥♥♥♥. And training in normal is not that of a good practice either.

really need a script for the bot. so i can practice better . any source?

Edit: the problem is on my teammates, I hate the allies bot
Last edited by egg; Mar 16, 2016 @ 7:40am
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Petra Mar 16, 2016 @ 4:41am 
practice more
Lahel Mar 16, 2016 @ 4:53am 
If you're losing against hard or unfair bots consistently, you really might want to practice more.
I suggest you to just challenge yourself and do the hard bots until you can do them consistently, then do unfair until you can do the same with that as well.
They're not called "unfair" for no reason. No, I'm not just saying "git gud", I mean it: on the hardest levels, the enemy team gets a gold/XP boost, plus the enemy bots are flat-out smarter than the ones on your team. And I know how infuriating it is when your allies constantly die the stupidest deaths, such as deciding that the best way to run home is right through the entire enemy team. Again and again and again.

I would recommend activating and using the console cheats if you want to keep your sanity. Here's the wiki page: http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Cheats

You will need to turn on the Console in the settings (it'll be under Settings > Application). When in game, bring up the Console (default is \ I think), turn on cheats with "sv_cheats 1".

From then on you can type cheats straight into the chat. I would recommend starting with "-lvlup #", "-gold #", "-item <name>" and "-respawn"

In case it needs to be said: no, you can't use this outside of solo training or a server run by you. And this absolutely won't get you a VAC ban.
Last edited by Chara the Explorer; Mar 16, 2016 @ 4:59am
99 Mar 16, 2016 @ 5:19am 
Ggwp
Petra Mar 16, 2016 @ 5:24am 
Do they have advantaje? I dont really see unfair bots being good and im not boasting or something. Just go mid, completely won the lane, avoid the ganks and you will win
Wutproppen Mar 16, 2016 @ 5:27am 
If you lose vs unfair bots you are a bad player.

I sometimes play coop vs unfair bots to have some wacky fun, like Prophet with aghs and refresher, or carry ogre magi with battlefury and daedalus.
BossGalaga Mar 16, 2016 @ 6:10am 
Originally posted by SPoiled:
Practicing with bots is stupid, if you play on hard-unfair. you are almost guaranteed to lose.

If "you are almost guaranteed to lose" then practicing with bots must not be stupid. If you can win against these ahem...*impossible* bots then you should be that much more prepared to play against real players.

Originally posted by SPoiled:
Does anyone have a script for the bots? custom scripts?? please?. really need it to practice.

That makes no sense. You say you really need the practice...but you want to use some scripts so you can cheese bot matches...which wouldn't make you any better thereby negating the whole point of practicing.

Bots are predictable. If you try some half-assed gank against one, they will rush you. If you are low hp, they will rush you. If you are alone in a lane, they will rush you. At level 6+ they will start grouping up for 3+ pushes, then they'll start 4-5 man pushes. If you chase one, you'll run into the rest. They will deathball your towers. If you and your teammates are stubborn and refuse to rotate to defend then you will lose your towers.

They will stun combo in perfect unison. If you are in vision range, they will know exactly where you are the second you are. They do not have to press buttons or click on you. Their attacks are instantaneous. You are not fighting against players, you are fighting against a computer, against mathematical formulas.

They are actually highly exploitable and totally cheesable but you won't learn anything from that. I recommend (for the most part) treating a bot game like a normal game, that is if you're trying to learn something. If you're just screwing around, whatever. Just don't be a ♥♥♥♥ to your teammates who are actually trying to learn.
egg Mar 16, 2016 @ 6:45am 
Originally posted by BossGalaga:
Originally posted by SPoiled:
Practicing with bots is stupid, if you play on hard-unfair. you are almost guaranteed to lose.

If "you are almost guaranteed to lose" then practicing with bots must not be stupid. If you can win against these ahem...*impossible* bots then you should be that much more prepared to play against real players.

Originally posted by SPoiled:
Does anyone have a script for the bots? custom scripts?? please?. really need it to practice.

That makes no sense. You say you really need the practice...but you want to use some scripts so you can cheese bot matches...which wouldn't make you any better thereby negating the whole point of practicing.

Bots are predictable. If you try some half-assed gank against one, they will rush you. If you are low hp, they will rush you. If you are alone in a lane, they will rush you. At level 6+ they will start grouping up for 3+ pushes, then they'll start 4-5 man pushes. If you chase one, you'll run into the rest. They will deathball your towers. If you and your teammates are stubborn and refuse to rotate to defend then you will lose your towers.

They will stun combo in perfect unison. If you are in vision range, they will know exactly where you are the second you are. They do not have to press buttons or click on you. Their attacks are instantaneous. You are not fighting against players, you are fighting against a computer, against mathematical formulas.

They are actually highly exploitable and totally cheesable but you won't learn anything from that. I recommend (for the most part) treating a bot game like a normal game, that is if you're trying to learn something. If you're just screwing around, whatever. Just don't be a ♥♥♥♥ to your teammates who are actually trying to learn.

Thanks for that but take note, that I have a big problem with the allies. They will constantly feed. Any suggestions?
Originally posted by BossGalaga:
Snip
If you and your teammates are stubborn and refuse to rotate to defend then you will lose your towers. Snip Just don't be a ♥♥♥♥ to your teammates who are actually trying to learn. Snip
You didn't read the title properly. And I have a feeling neither did most of the posters. The issue isn't with the ENEMY bots per say, it's the ones on your team.

Dealing with enemy bots is easy enough when with human players. However, allied bots will almost always consistantly let you down with their constant and ridiculous stupidity.

You said it yourself: bots will always wreck you when they're ganged up, and well, that's the thing: the bot's intelligence seems to be directly proportional to how likely they think they are to get win a fight, which unfortunately means that they're dumb as dirt when they DON'T think they can win, doing things such as attempting to retreat to base right through the enemy team, wandering off to farm the jungle when the ancient is being attacked, hanging around within Blinking distance waiting to be picked off one by one, etc etc.

Trust me, I've had more than a few games where I would completely stomp the bots, only to lose anyway because my own allied bots were feeding just as hard. There's "being predictable" and then there's just being ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid. And your own team is almost always ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid.
Last edited by Chara the Explorer; Mar 16, 2016 @ 8:57pm
gin toe kee Mar 16, 2016 @ 9:11pm 
Originally posted by SPoiled:
Originally posted by BossGalaga:

If "you are almost guaranteed to lose" then practicing with bots must not be stupid. If you can win against these ahem...*impossible* bots then you should be that much more prepared to play against real players.



That makes no sense. You say you really need the practice...but you want to use some scripts so you can cheese bot matches...which wouldn't make you any better thereby negating the whole point of practicing.

Bots are predictable. If you try some half-assed gank against one, they will rush you. If you are low hp, they will rush you. If you are alone in a lane, they will rush you. At level 6+ they will start grouping up for 3+ pushes, then they'll start 4-5 man pushes. If you chase one, you'll run into the rest. They will deathball your towers. If you and your teammates are stubborn and refuse to rotate to defend then you will lose your towers.

They will stun combo in perfect unison. If you are in vision range, they will know exactly where you are the second you are. They do not have to press buttons or click on you. Their attacks are instantaneous. You are not fighting against players, you are fighting against a computer, against mathematical formulas.

They are actually highly exploitable and totally cheesable but you won't learn anything from that. I recommend (for the most part) treating a bot game like a normal game, that is if you're trying to learn something. If you're just screwing around, whatever. Just don't be a ♥♥♥♥ to your teammates who are actually trying to learn.

Thanks for that but take note, that I have a big problem with the allies. They will constantly feed. Any suggestions?
1. Split push
2. Get fed
COCAINA POINT Mar 16, 2016 @ 9:38pm 
Lose to bots :DdDDDF lalalalalalal lol
BossGalaga Mar 17, 2016 @ 4:11am 
Ah, I see, you're complaining about the bots on your team. Well, they will stand around and be idiots if you don't ping them or use commands. Ping a target to push and they will push, ping for a defend and they'll rotate to defend, ping for a gank and they'll gank!

Ping for nothing and they'll pretty much just defend lane or wander around.

The difference between allied bots and enemy bots is that the enemy bots make decisions on when to push together, when to defend, when to gank. That's part of their AI. But when you're playing solo bot, you need to give them orders or they'll just passively lane pretty much.
Myst?c Mar 17, 2016 @ 4:27am 
unfair bots have the skill level of a 3k player roughly
gin toe kee Mar 17, 2016 @ 4:30am 
Originally posted by blade.blaster56745:
unfair bots have the skill level of a 3k player roughly
but they have the skill level of a 300 mmr player when it comes to split push
Originally posted by blade.blaster56745:
unfair bots have the skill level of a 3k player roughly
The problem is the ones on your side have the skill of 1k.
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