Legend/Ancient how to gank sven solo

[Nanomashines SOn]

Hey, i play mid lately and question is: What hero to pick IO/Sven in backside jungle, when they have invoker mid too, How to do it SOLO?

What hero do you think could be good? We talking about minute 7 to 20. My team just let him freefarm + he gone out of control(obviously), so how to stop him? What pick? I was tinker and it was horrible. I got blink, 3-1 but he just farmed so unstoppoble fast in safe area.

How would you do it in higher rank?

[Rebel Hornet]

pick troll

[Ann☆ﾟ.*･｡]

how can you gank sven solo when his support is io. you almost never see him alone without io (that only happen if io player doesn't know how to play io). just focus midlane match. you need your offlane teammates to win their lane and force him to go jungle early, and try invade their jungle as much as possible.

against invoker if you simply wants to win lane you can pick storm or qop, then purchase orchid. buy hex, eblade and/or linken depending on situation.

[X2B3A7̸̾̐͆̃̓̈̀̓͑͑̚]

Originally posted by Ludicrous Kill:

Hey, i play mid lately and question is: What hero to pick IO/Sven in backside jungle, when they have invoker mid too, How to do it SOLO?

What hero do you think could be good? We talking about minute 7 to 20. My team just let him freefarm + he gone out of control(obviously), so how to stop him? What pick? I was tinker and it was horrible. I got blink, 3-1 but he just farmed so unstoppoble fast in safe area.

How would you do it in higher rank?

sven is such a pain. easily killed my maxed out bb in 3 shots.

[Nanomashines SOn]

Originally posted by Ann☆ﾟ.*･｡:

how can you gank sven solo when his support is io. you almost never see him alone without io (that only happen if io player doesn't know how to play io). just focus midlane match. you need your offlane teammates to win their lane and force him to go jungle early, and try invade their jungle as much as possible.

against invoker if you simply wants to win lane you can pick storm or qop, then purchase orchid. buy hex, eblade and/or linken depending on situation.

I was tinker mid, i killed sven twice, then he went in jungle behind t2 tower mostly, as he had io with him, invoker protecting him when needed and invoker making stacks for him with forge spirits at ancients, i could not invade far enough to kill him anymore.
My carry was a mediocre ursa, that did an outdated build. Sure, normally could win at some point, but ofc. ursa was farming way slower + So im looking for ways how i could have influenced the game better to win it.
I picked Tinker last(probably failpick tbh.) and invoker lastpicked too with me.

So the question came up, what could be a mid pick that can pressure sven behind his t2 jungle on the edge of the map with his team protecting + warding

[aLeGrim]

There is no a way to do it, dota is a failed game and you should unistall it as soon as possible

[Purrr!]

Originally posted by aLeGrim:

There is no a way to do it, dota is a failed game and you should unistall it as soon as possible

the way you're raging in every post is hilarious hahahaha thanks for making me laugh broski

[Artek [General]]

As a local Sven picker (literally the only hero i play, effectively) - just... Pick mages and destroy him until he gets his BKB. Or pick one of the stronger, bigger carries and focus him.

Sven is, at his heart, a melee carry with some durability against physical damage.
When it comes to fighting mages - until he acquires BKB or at least a Mageslayer anyway - he's basically worthless, except for the part where he can kill weak casters in like 5 swings.

Characters like Silencer, Outworld Destoyer, Death Prophet, Pugna, Skywrath Mage, etc. make Sven's life utterly miserable until he acquires BKB, and even then he better win that fight until BKB runs out or its over.

Sven is also exceptionally weak to being slowed. Can't do nothing in a fight if he can't take a single step towards a target. Venomancer and Viper are basically counter picks to him and combining both will destroy his day forever.

There are also carries that can easily out-duel him. Phantom Assassin in particular comes to mind: on an equal farm she wins 8 cases out of 10 because she's just too strong while dodging his swings at the same time. And somehow buying MKB is not enough, in my experience.
Sniper is a natural enemy of Sven and on equal farm will win the fight as long as Sven doesn't initiate with a blink. Then you buy Wyvern's Pike or whatever it is called and now you basically win every duel by default until Sven acquires Harpoon.
Same happens with Draw Range, Silencer, Outworld Destroyer...



But if we are talking SPECIFICALLY about ability to gank the guy with an Io glued to his behind...
Witch Doctor is a great idea here. Catch them with the drum and do the ult while they're stunlocked by ricochets. Sven can't do ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ against pure damage, so he just gets demolished either by the ward or by the stupid other spell WD has. Kills you in majority of cases if you get hit by that combo, especially on equal footing.
Then you buy whatever unlocks the Switcheroo ability and there's literally nothing Sven can do now but just take ungodly amounts of damage and pray he can get to the fountain before the poison gets him.

[ixthid the desolate]

pick bounty kill io then deal with sven

orchid helps