How do I get out of 2k?

[1632189633]

I climb from 1.1k to 2.2k in a few week but now I feel like I'm stuck. I mainly play mid and have a winrate of 90% every game, I did play with legend 5 player games and still win mid in that bracket everyone in legend know what they are doing and that seem like an ideal mmr I should be but I can't seem to rank up in 2k mmr at all. Every single game after the update I met all toxic and troll does behavior score system now rigged? for over 20 games all player I met in this bracket are like that Luna core with 0 15 with support 0 20 even if I manage to win mid blow up all tower and score opposite of him I just can't seem to carry them, people pick very bad choice like bounty core last pick even worse than when I was 1k and seem to be much more toxic as I met a pudge that said GG in 2 min of game because his support doesn't heal him and he feed. I feel lose what to do in this bracket and about to give up on this game but if you are able to climb out of this please tell me/advise what to do, I really want to enjoy dota when I get to play a proper game

[76561199556074174]

2k to 4k is the harderst. Most of the player base of Dota 2 is in this brackets. You have to take it like that. It's not going to be easy. It may take you 4 to 6 months, some players get stuck in there eons. Seriously, it took me more than 7 years to reach Ancient 1.

- Just focus on you and ignore griefers. In the long run, you will climb, they wont. Keyword being: ignore.

- Low behaviour score Dota is not Dota. Do not ping, chat voice or chat text if your behaviour score is less than 7k. If you do this and play every game with the intention to win, you will eventually gain your behaviour score back and be able to play Dota again.

- Focus on improving, not in MMR. Take every hard match (including the ones with griefers) as chance to improve on something. For example, as a mid player, if your team is really behind or someone is griefing, there is no better opportunity for you to improve your split pushing skills and map awarness. Remember this: MMR is just a nice thing the comes after improvement, not the other way around.

- Spam one or two heroes. You dont even have to last pick them. Eventually you will feel comfortable enough with those two heroes, so you can focus on actually learning the game. For example as a mid: lining matchups, controlling power runes, ganking, fights selection like how, when and how hard to commit to fights, target priorities, and so on.

- When you reach 3k, I recommend you grind one of the Spirits as a mid player (Storm, Ember, Void or Earth). This heroes are hard and you may lose a lot of MMR at the beggining, but again, try seeing the bigger picture. This heroes will benefict you a lot in the long run. It's really important here that you study pro gameplays and actively analyze how pros abuse their power spikes.

- DO NOT GRIEF. Sometimes you lose 3 times in a row, dont get frustraded and start feeding every match. Cuz you will basically be telling the matchmaking alg "hey, I belong to a lower bracket". Play some other game for an hour, or just leave the Dota for tomorrow. I know this may be hard cuz maybe you wont have time to play until next weekend or something, but it will also benefict you in the long run, and a LOT.

- Analyze your replays and look for mistakes you can fix. Like: oh, I jumped DK there with my blink dagger and got chain stunned, shoulda blink Lion instead, use BKB, and it was ez fight. A nice number here is 4. Try analizing 4 out of every 10 matches you play.

- Try to not Auto-pilot. Every decission you make in the game should be well thought. Many people just do the same every single game, without thinking. As a result, they get stuck in the same bracket for decades and develop a ton of bad habits that stick with them.

- Watch pros. Especially on your favorite heros. Trust me on this, pros are nerds. You will learn a lot from them: lining tricks, skill builds, itemization, item timings, how to approach fights, and way more. They also watch a lot of replays too. Why shouldn't you?

Hope this helps :)

[Deepbluediver]

Originally posted by ˚˖ Morrywolf ˖˚:

How do I get out of 2k?

Improve your skill to the point where you are better than a 2k players. There's no trick to it, you just need to play better consistently. You won't be rewarded for grinding a lot of hours if your skill doesn't change.

[JJ, Professional Fool]

Have you tried playing with a USB Modified NES Power Glove?

Just checking all potential bases....For a me....

[DOgshTA2🤮]

Please don't miss lead people, you can't rank up in this system that is all.
This is confirmed by pro players

[1632189633]

Originally posted by Vi:

2k to 4k is the harderst. Most of the player base of Dota 2 is in this brackets. You have to take it like that. It's not going to be easy. It may take you 4 to 6 months, some players get stuck in there eons. Seriously, it took me more than 7 years to reach Ancient 1.

- Just focus on you and ignore griefers. In the long run, you will climb, they wont. Keyword being: ignore.

- Low behaviour score Dota is not Dota. Do not ping, chat voice or chat text if your behaviour score is less than 7k. If you do this and play every game with the intention to win, you will eventually gain your behaviour score back and be able to play Dota again.

- Focus on improving, not in MMR. Take every hard match (including the ones with griefers) as chance to improve on something. For example, as a mid player, if your team is really behind or someone is griefing, there is no better opportunity for you to improve your split pushing skills and map awarness. Remember this: MMR is just a nice thing the comes after improvement, not the other way around.

- Spam one or two heroes. You dont even have to last pick them. Eventually you will feel comfortable enough with those two heroes, so you can focus on actually learning the game. For example as a mid: lining matchups, controlling power runes, ganking, fights selection like how, when and how hard to commit to fights, target priorities, and so on.

- When you reach 3k, I recommend you grind one of the Spirits as a mid player (Storm, Ember, Void or Earth). This heroes are hard and you may lose a lot of MMR at the beggining, but again, try seeing the bigger picture. This heroes will benefict you a lot in the long run. It's really important here that you study pro gameplays and actively analyze how pros abuse their power spikes.

- DO NOT GRIEF. Sometimes you lose 3 times in a row, dont get frustraded and start feeding every match. Cuz you will basically be telling the matchmaking alg "hey, I belong to a lower bracket". Play some other game for an hour, or just leave the Dota for tomorrow. I know this may be hard cuz maybe you wont have time to play until next weekend or something, but it will also benefict you in the long run, and a LOT.

- Analyze your replays and look for mistakes you can fix. Like: oh, I jumped DK there with my blink dagger and got chain stunned, shoulda blink Lion instead, use BKB, and it was ez fight. A nice number here is 4. Try analizing 4 out of every 10 matches you play.

- Try to not Auto-pilot. Every decission you make in the game should be well thought. Many people just do the same every single game, without thinking. As a result, they get stuck in the same bracket for decades and develop a ton of bad habits that stick with them.

- Watch pros. Especially on your favorite heros. Trust me on this, pros are nerds. You will learn a lot from them: lining tricks, skill builds, itemization, item timings, how to approach fights, and way more. They also watch a lot of replays too. Why shouldn't you?

Hope this helps :)

I have 12k behavior score and feel like people are even more toxic than pre update which is 10k or so? before I reached 2k I met all "normal" team, sup, offlane, mid, carry and hard sup stuff but when I enter this bracket people just turn the opposite some even play worse than 1k. Every game that I play mid is a won but it's like algorithm keep matching me with troll and griefer, I'm in a losing streak of 20 games in a roll. 50% have jungler and all have griefer either feeding offlane or pick stupid carry like bounty core.

But your advise is very useful I will try split pushing more

[barberboy21]

Originally posted by Deepbluediver:

Originally posted by ˚˖ Morrywolf ˖˚:

How do I get out of 2k?

Improve your skill to the point where you are better than a 2k players. There's no trick to it, you just need to play better consistently. You won't be rewarded for grinding a lot of hours if your skill doesn't change.

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Rofl how many hours you got? Cause man that was a really good laugh I haven't had in a while.

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And to answer your question there is none other than finding 4 other players that can play their role well enough to carry as a group for the role specified and tolerate you/vice versa.

Also to the guy that says watch pros ya def don't do that, that's how most fail. It's "ok" to watch them and learn why/how they do it, but 9.7/10 times newish players and really uncomprehending vets will do this, fail, and not understand why it's failing. All the while you get blamed/flamed because you joined a match to waste peoples time doing it off the rip instead of practicing it in pubs.

"Well arteezy did it so I'm trying it."

Ya that's why you're failing because you're not arteezy and don't know why/how he's doing it.

Clocking in at 20k hours best advice I can give you (as a solo player only) is to practice in pubs and not ranked. Reason being is you can figure out each hero, the counters to them, how to itemize them, what position they are best at etc etc. If you do what ding dong says and turn into these new half assed pro players with 1-3 prime selection then you'll just be below average player.

Took me around 4k normal matches before I even started ranked in the end of 2015, but at the same time normal is nowhere near what it was back then.

Legend players are nothing more than glorified crusaders from 2016 ( I think that's when medals started? can't remember) so don't feel too proud.

There's an old saying in this game "You can win the lane but still lose the game." simply because different drafts scale differently given time or opportunities as a team.

Crusader to legend is the most unpleasant bracket because it's all the rejects of 1st/2nd gen players that won't hit the damn normal pub match button cause "I'm just here for fun" will be their automatic rebuttal every time. Because they don't know any better and most the time will be ignorant.

To sum it all up: You either do or you don't.

I deranked years ago because Valve was slow on putting in a coaching button all the while I tried to teach these new upcoming players.

That was the dumbest idea I ever had because quality 2012-2016 players are all divine+ and I have to weave through all the crap to go back up.

Great example is bout a month ago I decided to scale back up again (cause like you I almost called it quits for good) was goin pretty smooth. Reminded me of how smooth it was back in 2015...................

And then they reappeared...........

The same players that I took a break from to not be matched with climbed into the damn archon bracket and cost me to go back down when I got back up to 5*

So in 3 days I went from arc 5 back to crusader 5 because the same shmucks that shouldn't be in archon (just any general bracket that they DON'T belong in) got either buddy boosted or won by luck with their 0 skills.

Dota is just a weird game mate. Either you carry the weight yourself or your team actually plays together as one. Sometimes you get a griefer sometimes you don't. Had plenty of those matches. Some I win some I lose because of what I picked.

But do keep in mind, if you consider a duo booster, that you will be called out if you lack skill etc etc.

Good luck and god speed mate.

[PSA10]

Just give up! The whole ranking system is a joke now and overall it's pretty much a dead game. They keep making changes to try to lure new player in but the fact is they are only losing the faithfuls one by one.
Just think about it. People who actually love dota2 since the beginning is probably too busy to play now. Most of the people you see in between 2k and 4k are either jobless ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ with a ton of resentment against everything and want you to suffer like them, or kids who are young, dumb and want to be somewhat 'special' (otherwise they won't play dota). I was Ancient 7 (around 4500) in 2019 and have a ton of friends from everywhere between 1500 to 6000+ who used to play a lot. But we all gave up somewhere between 2019 and 2021 after graduating and got a job/PhD offer. THESE are the well-educated, good behaving people who truly love the game.

[Absche]

Originally posted by RankedJoke:

Please don't miss lead people, you can't rank up in this system that is all.
This is confirmed by pro players

And here we are at a point: solo public matchmaking is not what the pros do for money.

Get yourself a fixed team with a common mindset about how serious to play and willing to progress together and you will leave 2k mmr behind. Push that lazy "play" button in solo queue and you get all the unreliabilities inherent issues with the peer group that does just the same.

[Deepbluediver]

Originally posted by RankedJoke:

Please don't miss lead people, you can't rank up in this system that is all.
This is confirmed by pro players

Actually multiple high-ranked players have gotten on low MMR accounts and rapidly pushed them up the ranks. It's why people sell MMR-rank in the first place.

(not that I'm condoning either of those things, just pointing out that its happened)

[Kyo Kusanagi]

when more and more smurfs in game, its harder to get out or crusader/ archon range

[76561199556074174]

Dont follow the advise of anyone who says it's imposible to rank up. Those player are just stuck in their rank for years blaming others for their mistakes.

Yes, It's not going to be easy. It's actually going to be PRETTY hard. But it is definitively possible. Focus on improving yourself and you will eventually be able to carry by yourself 60% of the games.

The statements they make is ridiculous, especially if you play as a mid. Even if you have a 51% winrate you will eventually rank up. Accept the challenge that it's going to be hard, and sometimes frustrating. If you can overcome that and improve with every game you will definitively gain MMR.

Wich btw, it is not the most important thing, MMR is just a number. Your skill and knowledge of the game is what will eventually make you play with the bros in higher ranks. That's why I'm advising you to focus on improving and ignoring griefers. Giving them attention just leads to nothing and makes you focus on their mistakes rather than yours.



(THINK ABOUT LIKE THIS, YOU THE ONES FOCUSED SO MUCH ON GRIEFERS: YOU HAVE 4 ALLIES ON YOUR TEAM, AND 5 ENEMIES. THE ENEMY TEAM HAS MORE CHANCES TO HAVE A GRIEFER THAN YOUR TEAM, IF YOU PLAY PROPERLY AND DONT GRIEF. 4 < 5. IT'S SIMPLE MATHS.)

[Azor]

as someone who started in 2k and now trying to reach 5k, my best tip is to watch pro matches and pro player perspective, pick meta and follow dota2protracker builds AND MOSTLT IMPORTANTLY mute everyone because everyone below 6k is like 2 years behind in terms of meta. I am at 4200 mmr right now.

[Смузи]

Just play better... If u have 2k mmr and play like a 2.5-3k person, you will climb so easily.
Take a break if u need, relax, watch some replays, but I don't believe that u can lose 20 games in a row because of your team

[Purrr!]

Ditto on the play as support comments, but seeing as you're a mid player that might not be your favorite avenue. Still, playing as pos 5 hard support in solo queue exclusively saw me rank up from 1.8k to divine, so not too shabby.

1. Replay analysis
2. Reduce your hero pool
3. PMA
4. Study the meta

that's pretty much what I did to rank up.

[ʍolɟ ǝɥʇ ǝsɹǝʌǝɹ]

Draft for winning game rather than winning lane? You can lose your tower early but make a bigger impact elsewhere. Sounds like your teams are responding well to rotations, so it might help you to tp on missing to counter initiate or rotate first. Yes, it is to the extent of babysitting weaker players, but better than gg 10-15 min in.