Hidden pool / Shadow pool

[kekw]

Valve's in-game system might be preventing you from ranking up.

After I heard that there's an in-game system called hidden pool or shadow pool. I looked it up and found out that the hidden pool/shadow pool is true.

According to an article:

"A hidden pool refers to a unique in-game system that prevents players from having long winning streaks, regardless of their rating. Despite its long presence in Dota 2, it remains unofficial.

To begin with, let’s clarify in more detail what Dota 2’s hidden pool means. This status is assigned to players with a high win rate or numerous reports. Regardless of game performance, players with it end up in teams with teammates that have a negative percentage of wins. As a result, this cannot but affect their success.

According to the gaming community, such a measure may have two critical reasons: punishing gamers for inappropriate behavior and equalizing the percentage of wins."

[ThunderSama]

It is often referred as " forced %50 ", which I agree with. I've played Dota 2 for seven years and regardless of my behaviour score and bracket I kept getting illogical loss streaks with the most troll and incompetent teammates upon carrying and winning a couple of games up until today. It never changed. In fact, it got worse over years due to decreasing player population.

[kekw]

Originally posted by TheThunder:

It is often referred as " forced %50 ", which I agree with. I've played Dota 2 for seven years and regardless of my behaviour score and bracket I kept getting illogical loss streaks with the most troll and incompetent teammates upon carrying and winning a couple of games up until today. It never changed. In fact, it got worse over years due to decreasing player population.

Yeah same to me. I've already reached divine bracket because of winstreak and wanted to ranked up to immortal bracket as my final dota2 goal and finally permanently uninstall the game. But find myself back at ancient bracket lmao.

[Hoakeen]

The game assume that you are too good and put you with people with the same rank but going down, so if you win those really hard games is when you rank up.
Out of 10 games 4 your will ez win, 4 you will be owned, and 2 going to be really balanced, those 2 are the key for rank up.

[kekw]

Originally posted by Hoakeen:

The game assume that you are too good and put you with people with the same rank but going down, so if you win those really hard games is when you rank up.
Out of 10 games 4 your will ez win, 4 you will be owned, and 2 going to be really balanced, those 2 are the key for rank up.

What do you mean put me with people with the same rank? Aren't we playing ranked matches with the same ranks? Upper or lower your current bracket, e.g if you're divine 3, you'll be matched with divine 1-5, if less people are finding match, you might be matched with ancient players or few immortal players near your current bracket.

[ThunderSama]

Originally posted by Hoakeen:

The game assume that you are too good and put you with people with the same rank but going down, so if you win those really hard games is when you rank up.
Out of 10 games 4 your will ez win, 4 you will be owned, and 2 going to be really balanced, those 2 are the key for rank up.

That's exactly where the issue lies. Why would I have put up with 4 already lost games and another 4 games which don't even require me to try my best? Each and every match should be balanced, so that you can actually make a difference if you're playing even slightly above your current bracket. But it is a broken system anyway.

[kekw]

Originally posted by TheThunder:

That's exactly where the issue lies. Why would I have put up with 4 already lost games and another 4 games which don't even require me to try my best? Each and every match should be balanced, so that you can actually make a difference if you're playing even slightly above your current bracket. But it is a broken system anyway.

Just like now, the current "forced recalibration" aka rank confidence. They make players either gain or lose higher rate mmr. I saw someone saying that by just playing 2 games something, he gained 2k+ mmr. What if he just got carried but his skill level is below average players. E.g His gameplay is crusader but current rank is ancient. I also matched with players who cannot even pull creeps or drag creeps. lmao

While me who plays from Dota 1 days and up to now Dota 2 days lose 300mmr in 2win games and 2 lose games. Like wtf valve?

[rootaccess]

Unfortunately, it's true and it's illogical as suddenly I should play with griefers, leavers, and zero sense players that can't play simple tasks. I had 20 win streak and suddenly everything changed 180 degree doesn't matter how hard you try every game highest damage gmp xp still you lose , there is system that to keep every player in a range of rank for a long time despite their skills

[Big Dog]

we have unlimited reports now and sub 3k score puts them out of ranked, in theory we should be able to fix this now.