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Tomoko May 31, 2023 @ 4:50am
Counter to spirit breaker?
Aside from hoping bans actually go through, what is the counter to SB? He's just blatantly OP and unstoppable atm as far as I can tell.

EDIT: Nevermind, they were cheating. SB is still super OP but this one game where he was hard uncounterable was just a cheater.
Last edited by Tomoko; May 31, 2023 @ 4:51am
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Си́нтез May 31, 2023 @ 4:53am 
disruptor's glimpse
bumbeyarraq May 31, 2023 @ 6:37am 
can you explain how they cheat on SB ? kinda curious TBH. Is it like auto targeting creeps to runaway or sth else ?
Tomoko May 31, 2023 @ 6:42am 
Originally posted by leonhardt:
can you explain how they cheat on SB ? kinda curious TBH. Is it like auto targeting creeps to runaway or sth else ?
Nono, the player was cheating, not the hero. It was a smurf.
Tomoko May 31, 2023 @ 6:42am 
Originally posted by Judy:
SB is not broken. He is the easiest hero to read and can be fully countered with any disable. His biggest strength is traversing the map at high speed which ends in a stun. But if you disable him, he is just fodder. Slows and disarm also break the hero. The hero is rarely used because of how easy it is to counter him.
But he has 73% status resistance most games I play, so how are stuns useful? Especially now since they reduced all stuns by about 30%... He can't be stunned.
Sleepless May 31, 2023 @ 7:34am 
linken
Tomoko May 31, 2023 @ 7:48am 
Originally posted by Judy:
Originally posted by Tomoko:
But he has 73% status resistance most games I play, so how are stuns useful? Especially now since they reduced all stuns by about 30%... He can't be stunned.
the status resistance just reduces the duration. It doesnt make him immune. Disabling him is enough to kill him. Plus you should fight him with a team not by yourself. SB excels at killing solo heroes. Plus you could always purge his buffs. Lot of items can dispel buffs. His 70% resistance can be dispelled.
I'll keep that in mind for next time. Although, we're already fighting him as a team and he's already unstoppable, unfortunately.
Rajin May 31, 2023 @ 8:06am 
Originally posted by Rajin:
Originally posted by Tomoko:
But he has 73% status resistance most games I play, so how are stuns useful? Especially now since they reduced all stuns by about 30%... He can't be stunned.


Linkens on your cores, Euls (or other dispells) for the bulldoze, Easy.
Tomoko May 31, 2023 @ 8:44am 
Originally posted by Judy:
Originally posted by Rajin:
that is the gist of my suggestion but not sure the OP understands. I have never run into an unkill-able cow. he is usually the first to die in my games. followed by his teammates.
Maybe you're not playing on the new patch? He did get buffed quite considerably and is in most of my games, almost always on the winning team. He's very strong at the moment and dispels aren't countering him much at all.

I understand what you said, but what you've said doesn't always strictly apply.
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Eric May 31, 2023 @ 9:38am 
Bloodseeker's rupture might help.
Tomoko May 31, 2023 @ 9:40am 
Originally posted by eric:
Bloodseeker's rupture might help.
Ooh, good idea!
Tomoko May 31, 2023 @ 9:42am 
Originally posted by Judy:
Originally posted by Tomoko:
Maybe you're not playing on the new patch? He did get buffed quite considerably and is in most of my games, almost always on the winning team. He's very strong at the moment and dispels aren't countering him much at all.

I understand what you said, but what you've said doesn't always strictly apply.
just played a lvl 30 cow recently. player had almost 10k games. kd 3-6 and lost. Only disables we had was Disruptor, me, and a WW.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2983156832
...That's not ranked. Forgive me for being dismissive, but I'm not really going to take your advice seriously if you're not actually playing a game mode where every player is trying to win intentionally.

I've single-handedly won many games against 12k+ hours that one-trick a certain character in turbo and normals. But that's usually because they weren't trying because it's turbo and normals.
LeGeNdArY NooB May 31, 2023 @ 11:35am 
Originally posted by Tomoko:
Originally posted by Judy:
just played a lvl 30 cow recently. player had almost 10k games. kd 3-6 and lost. Only disables we had was Disruptor, me, and a WW.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2983156832
...That's not ranked. Forgive me for being dismissive, but I'm not really going to take your advice seriously if you're not actually playing a game mode where every player is trying to win intentionally.

I've single-handedly won many games against 12k+ hours that one-trick a certain character in turbo and normals. But that's usually because they weren't trying because it's turbo and normals.
1- There is no difference between ranked and unranked. u won the game against his team. not him. there is idiot, noob, griefer, trolls,.... in ranked too. u can win against a 10k hour played person in ranked too. or lose against 500h played people. because its a team game.
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2- There is lots of counterhero and counter items.
-Heros :
Clockwerk, Necrophos, Morphling, Mars, Huskar, Dark Willow, Meepo, disruptor, ... .
u can see more counterpicks in this link :
https://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/spirit-breaker/counters
- Items :
Linken, Nullifier, Eul's Scepter, Rod of Atos, Crimson guard for team, Aeon Disk (if he kills u without having time to defend), Ghost scepter (if he have physical dmg build), ... .
Last edited by LeGeNdArY NooB; May 31, 2023 @ 11:36am
Tomoko May 31, 2023 @ 11:38am 
Originally posted by The false shepherd:
1- There is no difference between ranked and unranked. u won the game against his team. not him. there is idiot, noob, griefer, trolls,.... in ranked too. u can win against a 10k hour played person in ranked too. or lose against 500h played people. because its a team game.
This is a useless reply :D

Originally posted by The false shepherd:
2- There is lots of counterhero and counter items.
-Heros :
Clockwerk, Necrophos, Morphling, Mars, Huskar, Dark Willow, Meepo, disruptor, ... .
u can see more counterpicks in this link :
https://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/spirit-breaker/counters
- Items :
Linken, Nullifier, Eul's Scepter, Rod of Atos, Crimson guard for team, Aeon Disk (if he kills u without having time to defend), Ghost scepter (if he have physical dmg build), ... .

This however, is useful :D
Captain Plan it May 31, 2023 @ 2:34pm 
Originally posted by Tomoko:
Originally posted by The false shepherd:
1- There is no difference between ranked and unranked. u won the game against his team. not him. there is idiot, noob, griefer, trolls,.... in ranked too. u can win against a 10k hour played person in ranked too. or lose against 500h played people. because its a team game.
This is a useless reply :D

Originally posted by The false shepherd:
2- There is lots of counterhero and counter items.
-Heros :
Clockwerk, Necrophos, Morphling, Mars, Huskar, Dark Willow, Meepo, disruptor, ... .
u can see more counterpicks in this link :
https://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/spirit-breaker/counters
- Items :
Linken, Nullifier, Eul's Scepter, Rod of Atos, Crimson guard for team, Aeon Disk (if he kills u without having time to defend), Ghost scepter (if he have physical dmg build), ... .

This however, is useful :D
no the first part is useful cause its a mentality and once you adopt it you well be better its a team game solo selfish play leads to losses
Mirror May 31, 2023 @ 2:42pm 
Originally posted by DeepThrOaks420:
Originally posted by Tomoko:
This is a useless reply :D



This however, is useful :D
no the first part is useful cause its a mentality and once you adopt it you well be better its a team game solo selfish play leads to losses
the individual has a carry mentality. me me me. thinks its all about them but it has always been a team game. the updates keep pushing the old one man army mentality out. plus, its very apparent they are right and the world is wrong. Makes a lot of sense why they keep losing.
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Date Posted: May 31, 2023 @ 4:50am
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