What's the point of this MAP's new update? Why not make Separate Mode?

[ElPucino]

With this new MAP which bigger and confusing, this game looks like a "hide and seek game" and "farm simulator for the carry" for me. No more simple fast paced ganking.

For 5vs5 players, I think this maps is too bigger for MOBA type like DOTA2. This should be Battle Royale mode MAP with at least 10vs10 players inside.

I think every year this game keeps losing it's solid foundation and original value from DotA with the change (I didn't say It's bad though). I know that DOTA2 player base keep decreasing each year (like most of my friends retired after "talents tree" and "jungle items" update), and Valve want to make this game great again and pull old and new players, but not every change is good.

If Valve or the developer want to make a great big change for this game future, can't you people at least hold a survey or ask player's opinions first?

I know that they will not hear an opinion from normal people like me, but I am just disappointed. I don't know where Valve will take this game in few years ahead.

[OpenAI]

You've played same patch for 2 years straight. This is new Doto, deal with it. Icefrog is back and he made patch that can compare to 7.00. Take it, or leave it.

[I love to watch noob chinese]

Originally posted by Samuel:

With this new MAP which bigger and confusing, this game looks like a "hide and seek game" and "farm simulator for the carry" for me. No more simple fast paced ganking.

For 5vs5 players, I think this maps is too bigger for MOBA type like DOTA2. This should be Battle Royale mode MAP with at least 10vs10 players inside.

I think every year this game keeps losing it's solid foundation and original value from DotA with the change (I didn't say It's bad though). I know that DOTA2 player base keep decreasing each year (like most of my friends retired after "talents tree" and "jungle items" update), and Valve want to make this game great again and pull old and new players, but not every change is good.

If Valve or the developer want to make a great big change for this game future, can't you people at least hold a survey or ask player's opinions first?

I know that they will not hear an opinion from normal people like me, but I am just disappointed. I don't know where Valve will take this game in few years ahead.

Its a good update, map bit big so i reckon they will resize it but yeah its been out what for a few hours? And already a whine fest lol

[Armed and Dangerous]

feels like im playing an event game. this sucks!

[123]

Universal heroes. Nice. Please continue to fix what isn't broken. No wonder this game has had a steady decline in player count over the years. Good.

[ElPucino]

Originally posted by Sometimes, I dream about cheese:

You've played same patch for 2 years straight. This is new Doto, deal with it. Icefrog is back and he made patch that can compare to 7.00. Take it, or leave it.

FUN FACT for New Players from Veteran Player:

I played DotA1 maybe since 2006 till 2013, and
I played DotA2 since 2013 till 2017 (then retired from 2017 to 2021),

All are only have small or minor updates for the last ++10 years (only update new heroes, skill, items, and a little update for map like tree, neutral, and roshan location) and the player base keep increasing and can reached like around 1 million - 1.5 million++ players online in the same time (last 2017) and then 2021 till 2023 700k-900k players online in the same time is good enough.

I retired for 4 years (started playing again around 2021), only in 4 years valve destroyed this game, and now 2 years later they destroyed DOTA2 more to this state.

So what if Icefrog back? Is the creator of one game never make mistakes? Why people like you too worship a person that much lol.

Don't say "take it or leave it", that's a "loser statement" who can't take critics or maybe a kid statement. Altough I will leave it without you need to say it, lol.

[ElPucino]

Started from 2017 I think that's the downfall time of DOTA2 with so many major update.