why is zeus a right clicker semi carry ?

[carl]

i had the most stupid game as naga 0-0 for me where zeus was 15-3 and was destroying my illusions in 2 seconds even with hear because he made the right click build ... Why the heroes identity have been destroyed . It felt like i was playing some arcade/custom map

[Mirror]

heroes change all the time. this is nothing new and has always been a part of the game since Dota Allstars on Warcraft 3. Just look at the forum still crying about the techies change. Heroes will change and evolve due to the vision of the Developers, player feedback, and changes to gameplay. you are going to have to learn these changes and adapt. This is a rule that has been written into Dota for as long as I can remember and I can remember the birth of Dota on Starcraft: BroodWar.

[carl]

the heroes roles doesnt make any sense . they changed their identity . a support can become a carry and a carry can become useless late game . example ghost scepter ... this game is not dota2 . is somethig else where any hero can become anything.and domnt start me on wyverin carry

[Mirror]

Originally posted by carl:

the heroes roles doesnt make any sense . they changed their identity . a support can become a carry and a carry can become useless late game . example ghost scepter ... this game is not dota2 . is somethig else where any hero can become anything.and domnt start me on wyverin carry

watch some videos of your favorite heroes on Dota Allstars, aka Dota 1. Tell me if all of them are still the same as they are now? or if they still fit the same role or even have the same spells and mechanics as they used to have.

As far as I can read from your comments. I am noticing 2 things. 1, you are hurt from your loss and the changes. 2, you dont know how to build your hero to adapt. You cant play the same way everygame. You need to adapt and buy items to fit the need of the game. While certain items might be considered core. There will always be a need for a counter item.

For example Nullifier, which purges ghost scepter among other things. Also Revenants Brooch which lets you attack ethereal targets. You could also disable them before they use ghost scepter with any of 100s of skills in the game from hex to stuns. It all depends on if you are willing to change and adapt. This is coming from someone who has played since Aeon of Strife, the birth of Dota.

[Judge Cudge]

Originally posted by Judy:

heroes change all the time. this is nothing new and has always been a part of the game since Dota Allstars on Warcraft 3. Just look at the forum still crying about the techies change. Heroes will change and evolve due to the vision of the Developers, player feedback, and changes to gameplay. you are going to have to learn these changes and adapt. This is a rule that has been written into Dota for as long as I can remember and I can remember the birth of Dota on Starcraft: BroodWar.

They certainly do, but unless a character is borderline useless, no character should ever receive an "entire gameplay identity" revamp.

It would be an obvious betrayal of players invested in their style of play.

[mortacci]

Originally posted by Judy:

heroes change all the time. this is nothing new and has always been a part of the game since Dota Allstars on Warcraft 3. Just look at the forum still crying about the techies change. Heroes will change and evolve due to the vision of the Developers, player feedback, and changes to gameplay. you are going to have to learn these changes and adapt. This is a rule that has been written into Dota for as long as I can remember and I can remember the birth of Dota on Starcraft: BroodWar.

that right, but some time instead fo completly change the game stile of a hero will not be better to create a new 1?

[Mirror]

Originally posted by Mortacci:

Originally posted by Judy:

heroes change all the time. this is nothing new and has always been a part of the game since Dota Allstars on Warcraft 3. Just look at the forum still crying about the techies change. Heroes will change and evolve due to the vision of the Developers, player feedback, and changes to gameplay. you are going to have to learn these changes and adapt. This is a rule that has been written into Dota for as long as I can remember and I can remember the birth of Dota on Starcraft: BroodWar.

that right, but some time instead fo completly change the game stile of a hero will not be better to create a new 1?

all they did was give him a 2nd option build. Which he sorely needed. A lot of heroes have it or need it. To be honest, all they gave him was a right click shard and nothing else. You all make it sound like they remade the hero.

[Judge Cudge]

He is supposed to be specifically lacking in right click and mobility. They now have given him both.

Part of a characters definition is what they CAN'T do, and now he is added to the long list of mages who for no reason were handed a right click lategame.

It was stupid when they did it to CM, AA, SS, Lich, Lion, Techies, etc. It's even more stupid to think it makes sense to do again.

You know what would be actually interesting? Fundamentally removing his ability to autoattack and giving him some slight buffs in his casting to compensate. That would actually be new territory that specifically Zues would be happy to have, since he near exclusively last hits with his q anyways.

[[Slayer]]

WW is a pretty good off laner now.

[Judge Cudge]

♥♥♥♥ I forgot about WW. But the amount of people eating Enchantress's pie is off the charts.