Matchmaking is still atrocious. Lost another 10 games in a row

[Neyreyan_Youtube]

Even statistically, you should win 20-30% of games because most games are won or lost because of 2 players out of 5 so what gives?

Why is it so hard to make a good matchmaking system? They have all the tools, they should just making match making take as long as it takes but to give decent games.
I would rather wait 20 minutes for a game that waste my time in a 60 minute game i know i lost from the first 20 minutes

[ʍolɟ ǝɥʇ ǝsɹǝʌǝɹ]

don't queue into loss streaks, its the only way to avoid frustration.

[Neyreyan_Youtube]

Originally posted by ʍolɟ ǝɥʇ ǝsɹǝʌǝɹ:

don't queue into loss streaks, its the only way to avoid frustration.

its a 1 week streak, not a 1 day one

[ParacetamoL]

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[ʍolɟ ǝɥʇ ǝsɹǝʌǝɹ]

Originally posted by Neyreyan_Youtube:

Originally posted by ʍolɟ ǝɥʇ ǝsɹǝʌǝɹ:

don't queue into loss streaks, its the only way to avoid frustration.

its a 1 week streak, not a 1 day one

😭 I'm sorry 😞 feels bad man 🐸
Bot matches are easy wins if you feel you matches are rigged.

[Nero]

same, had about 13 losses now. hahaha just queue up with party of friends and hope you guys win some games

[EL_SATAN]

Originally posted by Neyreyan_Youtube:

Even statistically, you should win 20-30% of games because most games are won or lost because of 2 players out of 5 so what gives?

Why is it so hard to make a good matchmaking system? They have all the tools, they should just making match making take as long as it takes but to give decent games.
I would rather wait 20 minutes for a game that waste my time in a 60 minute game i know i lost from the first 20 minutes

Definitely something is broken with matchmaking now.

I've got stomped last seven games badly. I was picking pos 4 or pos 5. Teammates played just terrible. Always 2 line lost at start.

Finally just 4 fun I picked Ursa offline and I did 20-0. Opposite team had got Slark 0-10. We stomped opposite team 37-13 xddd

Quite balanced xddd

[CocoJambo (Mute)]

is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥ , you right . Every time i play core my support goes mid or leave me alone on lane and i get raped after he blames me >O)) typical

[SquishNoob]

statistically 10-20 wins or losses in a row is not impossible or even unlikely... Especially in a set of thousands... flip a coin 10k times... it will hit 10 streaks quite often.

[ʍolɟ ǝɥʇ ǝsɹǝʌǝɹ]

just lost 6 in a row.

Originally posted by SquishNoob:

statistically 10-20 wins or losses in a row is not impossible or even unlikely... Especially in a set of thousands... flip a coin 10k times... it will hit 10 streaks quite often.

if matchmaking was balanced, or you are in your rank, you'd expect to see the appearance of streaks matching close to the binomial distribution. If I was still in school i'd probably program it so you can check your last x games to see if it matches whats expected. and thats how we would build a body of evidence for rigging or not.

[Tu odio me fortalece]

feels very imbalanced, like every game huge skill difference betwen teams, 4 games in a row i tie my lane and other lanes lost

[AerSilver ♞]

Unranked matchmaking definitely forces losing games on you.
Doesn't even matter what you do,you lost when you pressed "accept".
It's how the system attemps to keep players hooked and queue again so they get more active players.

[Absche]

Originally posted by ʍolɟ ǝɥʇ ǝsɹǝʌǝɹ:

just lost 6 in a row.

Originally posted by SquishNoob:

statistically 10-20 wins or losses in a row is not impossible or even unlikely... Especially in a set of thousands... flip a coin 10k times... it will hit 10 streaks quite often.

if matchmaking was balanced, or you are in your rank, you'd expect to see the appearance of streaks matching close to the binomial distribution. If I was still in school i'd probably program it so you can check your last x games to see if it matches whats expected. and thats how we would build a body of evidence for rigging or not.

So, you mean like in a sports league there should be no seasonal winners because all have 50% win rate? The strive for total balance is not healthy anyway because nobody wants to play in stalemate conditions

I agree in so far that the game has too many rigging factors in particular in ranked matchmaking. But mainly that are those that the community asked for so badly like behavior score based mm, party based mm inkl. strict solo, role based mm and even mmr based matchmaking is a rigging approach, and a dominant one in Dota2. All possible inofficial rigging factors have much less influence on mm than those in my opinion.

Everybody is free to develop a very individual view on matchmaking and everybody is free to take the appropriate consequences. But I'm not convinced if people complain about bad matchmaking, even intentional manipulated matchmaking, but the next thing they do is to push that green play button again. That renders these complains as not serious or the complainer as a gaming junkey or not reliable person in general.

[CrimsonClockwerk]

Late here but since the newest patch I've been getting stomped almost every single match and it's seriously aggravating. My laning phase is good, I do best I can yet someone always overfeeds and at this point I've been considering quitting the game again.

Last match it was 10 - 47 with the Clinkz feeding Necro over 8 kills in less than 10 minutes. By the time we lost he was 18/0/19. The Invoker was 12/0/15 and our Clinkz? Oh he was 1/17/5. I admit I was 0/7/6 but by the time it was 10 minutes in I couldn't even get into lane without getting ravaged in 0.1 seconds. Couldn't ward, nothing.

This sort of matchmaking is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ awful and needs a serious rework. I kept hearing how people have been having great team mates all the time now yet I've been on the opposite end of this and it's getting close to me just out right quitting.

[ΉYDЯΛ]

Same Brother, i am with you

[rEELZ]

Originally posted by Neyreyan_Youtube:

Even statistically, you should win 20-30% of games because most games are won or lost because of 2 players out of 5 so what gives?

Why is it so hard to make a good matchmaking system? They have all the tools, they should just making match making take as long as it takes but to give decent games.
I would rather wait 20 minutes for a game that waste my time in a 60 minute game i know i lost from the first 20 minutes

YOUR OPINION IS ONLY FOR THE WEAK AND TERRIBLE IF YOUR A REAL GOOD PLAYER YOU DONT CARE ABOUT WINS OR LOSSESS BECAUSE YOU WILL GAIN MORE WINS. SO TO YOUR WHOLE LETS MAKE MATCHMAKING TAKE LONGER TO FIND BALANCED MATCHES NO WHAT YOU REALLY WANT IS PLEASE LET ME WIN EVERY MATCH 100 PERCENT LOL NOT GONNA HAPPEN NOOB