Dead Reckoning Chest, reset, how to get tier 2?

[SWEDENGUY]

I just got all TIER 1 cosmetics, i unlocked the chests, and now for some reason the whole TIER 1 got a reset and i started roll TIER 1 again.. so my question is, how do i get TIER 2 and 3?

[Emperor Zodiac]

Consider it like how immortal treasure works

Tier 1 - normal items
Tier 2 - rare/very rare
Tier 3 - ultra rare

Once all tier 1 items are taken from the pool, they reset

That's how it goes

[Northland]

u have to trade 5 tier 1 for a random tier 2. At the chest page on top left there is a "trade up" option.
I dont think the chances to get random tier 2's as somebody claims is very high. I've opened 9 chests until now and have only gotten tier 1's.

[Emperor Zodiac]

You just have the option to recycle/trade up

5 tier 1 items - tier 2
5 tier 2 items - tier 3

Items gotten from recycle/trade up or trade up is randomized as well

[SWEDENGUY]

ok thanks! I saw it now :)

[Ragnoraok]

So how many T1 items are there in total?

[ʍolɟ ǝɥʇ ǝsɹǝʌǝɹ]

I pulled a t2 from the treasure. you can get them normally. based on trade up you'd expect a t2 5 times less than a t1 and same on t3

[ixthid the desolate]

Originally posted by Ragnoraok:

So how many T1 items are there in total?

8 t1, 6 t2 and 2 t3 I think

[ʍolɟ ǝɥʇ ǝsɹǝʌǝɹ]

odds are you are just unlucky

[Deepbluediver]

Originally posted by Kaffetack:

I just got all TIER 1 cosmetics, i unlocked the chests, and now for some reason the whole TIER 1 got a reset and i started roll TIER 1 again.. so my question is, how do i get TIER 2 and 3?

Effectively every Tier should be treated as a separate treasure. Think of it this way: when you open a treasure, the game rolls a dice: 95% of the time you get a Tier 1 treasure; 4.9% of the time you get a Tier 2 treasure, and 0.1% of the time you get a Tier 3 treasure. Then, when the game determines what treasure you've received, it rolls (AGAIN) for the specific item.

There's no way to reliably guarantee Tier 2 or 3 treasures. The only way to get them will likely be to shell out a lot of cash on keys to open additional treasures once the event ends, or to just buy them directly off the market.


Edit: All of the above numbers were completely made-up by me; I have no idea what the actual odds are.
At the time of writing, I've opened 6 treasures and every single one of them has been Tier 1. In my experience, which is in keeping with DotA's cosmetic-drops in general, the odds are HEAVILY weighted against getting anything other than common-rarity items.

[ixthid the desolate]

Originally posted by Deepbluediver:

Originally posted by Kaffetack:

I just got all TIER 1 cosmetics, i unlocked the chests, and now for some reason the whole TIER 1 got a reset and i started roll TIER 1 again.. so my question is, how do i get TIER 2 and 3?

Effectively every Tier should be treated as a separate treasure. Think of it this way: when you open a treasure, the game rolls a dice: 95% of the time you get a Tier 1 treasure; 4.9% of the time you get a Tier 2 treasure, and 0.1% of the time you get a Tier 3 treasure. Then, when the game determines what treasure you've received, it rolls (AGAIN) for the specific item.

There's no way to reliably guarantee Tier 2 or 3 treasures. The only way to get them will likely be to shell out a lot of cash on keys to open additional treasures once the event ends, or to just buy them directly off the market.


Edit: All of the above numbers were completely made-up by me; I have no idea what the actual odds are.
At the time of writing, I've opened 6 treasures and every single one of them has been Tier 1. The odds are HEAVILY weighted against getting anything other than common-rarity items.

if you only get tier 1 items, it takes 25 treasures with 25 keys, which is $62.5 or 500,000 shards for 1 tier 3 skin. that is also 250 flowers, or 63 games with a higher dead reckoning score than your target.

[Deepbluediver]

Originally posted by Atthabann:

if you only get tier 1 items, it takes 25 treasures with 25 keys, which is $62.5 or 500,000 shards for 1 tier 3 skin. that is also 250 flowers, or 63 games with a higher dead reckoning score than your target.

Yes, you're absolutely right- I've done the math as well.

I used all 5 of my free keys to open treasures, and if I can earn enough shards before the end of the event I'll probably keep going until I accumulate all the Tier 1 treasures. Beyond that, though, its more effort than it's worth IMO.

I assume (but in no way can guarantee) that these chests will keep dropping after the event is over but the only way to open them will be with purchased keys, much like the Hallowed Diretide chests. So at some point this stuff will end up on the market, and then we'll see how valuable the community thinks it actually is.
Personally, I don't see a whole lot of people shelling out twice the price of an Arcana for that Io skin, but hey I've been wrong before.


Edit: I'm further assuming that any chests you open for free will be account-bound, but that any chests you pay for with real money will be marketable. If someone has bought a key to actually open a chest with could confirm or deny this, it would be much appreciated.
Thanks!

[ixthid the desolate]

Originally posted by Deepbluediver:

Originally posted by Atthabann:

if you only get tier 1 items, it takes 25 treasures with 25 keys, which is $62.5 or 500,000 shards for 1 tier 3 skin. that is also 250 flowers, or 63 games with a higher dead reckoning score than your target.

Yes, you're absolutely right- I've done the math as well.

I used all 5 of my free keys to open treasures, and if I can earn enough shards before the end of the event I'll probably keep going until I accumulate all the Tier 1 treasures. Beyond that, though, its more effort than it's worth IMO.

I assume (but in no way can guarantee) that these chests will keep dropping after the event is over but the only way to open them will be with purchased keys, much like the Haunted Hollow chests. So at some point this stuff will end up on the market, and then we'll see how valuable the community thinks it actually is.
Personally, I don't see a whole lot of people shelling out twice the price of an Arcana for that Io skin, but hey I've been wrong before.


Edit: I'm further assuming that any chests you open for free will be account-bound, but that any chests you pay for with real money will be marketable. If someone has bought a key to actually open a chest with could confirm or deny this, it would be much appreciated.
Thanks!

I dont know much about what will or wont be marketable, but I hope mudusa and IO will and most likely the tier 3s will be since they say marketable after maybe 7th april, or the end of the event.

However, in the first few hours both the tier 3 skins were put for $200 and sold for $100 on the market before they were removed.

[Deepbluediver]

Originally posted by Atthabann:

I dont know much about what will or wont be marketable, but I hope mudusa and IO will and most likely the tier 3s will be since they say marketable after maybe 7th april, or the end of the event.

However, in the first few hours both the tier 3 skins were put for $200 and sold for $100 on the market before they were removed.

Interesting, I had missed that "marketable after X date" but it makes sense- then it's like the Ultra-rare items from the Collector's cache they release every BP.

I'm still guessing that the common and uncommon (Tier 2) items will be marketable if you open those chests with bought-keys instead of shards. That's usually how Valve does things (free items are account-bound, paid-for items are marketable, generally speaking).

[Ragnoraok]

Originally posted by Atthabann:

Originally posted by Ragnoraok:

So how many T1 items are there in total?

8 t1, 6 t2 and 2 t3 I think

So then after you get all T1 items, how does it reset the rolls back to T1? Can you get multiple copies of the same T1 item?

[ČIča]

I got IO set.
Is this ever going to be marketable.and if it does, how much would it cost?