Dota 2
Darkseid May 4, 2016 @ 1:24pm
Why Dota 2 is one of the worst games to play.
I have been playing Dota for quite some time and have loved it for the most part, until Valve took control of it. Yes, Valve has ruined this game, putting making a profit above all everything else, even its player base. Though Valve transformed this game by creating better looking models and terrain, they have forgotten what Dota is all about. The player base has now become one of the worst, if not THEE worst, game with terrible obnoxious players. The discussion board is flooded with complaints against them game and the choices Valve implements, so why do we continue to play it? The matchmaking system has to be the biggest joke out there, even LoL and HoN have incorporated a MUCH better system that Valve cannot compete with, nor do they want to. A forced 50/50 win percentage is just another way of telling the player base to stick it. Every game is flooded with people who do not speak the same language and trolls. You may say that is "every game" but not to the far reaching extent Dota 2 has incorporated. I am ashamed to call myself a Dota player and will be now looking for another game that actually cares about their players, not just the profits. If you are not playing on a team of five teammates, good luck, your game has already been lost. YOU didn't pick the support? GG, reported. You didn't land your stun for your carry and they died? RAGE REPORTED. Then comes the LPQ system, biggest mess I've ever seen. Have to WIN your games by being placed on a "bottom of the barrell" team, with the worst players in Dota and actually expect to win a game? If you were eported for being a douche like 95% of everyone else, you deserve it. If you were reported for the aforementioned reasons, then obviously Valve doesn't give a ♥♥♥♥ about you. I remember playing on DotaCash on WC3, and the game was SO much more fun and more of a balance of teams. Spend your money to make your toons look good but lets not actually give the players what they want, make teams more balanced and fair, and fix the LPQ system. Lets just make the Same heroes OP and untouchable. Valve has ruined every game they touched, from Counter-Strike, Team Fortress, Day of Defeat, any game they pick up, they ruin.
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Observer May 4, 2016 @ 1:29pm 
the game is free to play and all newcommers have equal chance of winning as anyone next to him/her. som complaining about you being poor and cant afford cosmetic items
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HALL May 4, 2016 @ 1:32pm 
Why do people complain about people not speaking the same language. Its not valves fault They even have region specific servers. Like people just love to complain... If you look at CS:GO fourms you would think the player base consists of 99% trolls and people complaining. Seriously CS:GO steam fourms are on a whole different level of toxic. Dota 2 looks like a perfect community compared to that fourm.
Last edited by HALL; May 4, 2016 @ 1:32pm
Lekk May 4, 2016 @ 1:32pm 
Originally posted by http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198263551973:
264 hrs on record
Currently In-Game
tom May 4, 2016 @ 1:32pm 
you started welll ... then i stopper reading at then 50/50 wiinrate ... checked your profile .. 260h and you say you have played dota a lot ....

the problem is that those days EVERY game is getting updates that make it easyer ...
also, people flame in EVERY game as bad as there .. it is just that in the oter games the chat isn't in the middle, and it's smoller, so that you don't see them flaming

just mute everybody as soon as someone starts flaming and play unraked ... if you get lpq it is becayuse YOU are the problem
piss wizard May 4, 2016 @ 1:35pm 
lels forced 50. besides saying they only want to make a profit is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, its one of the only free to play games where paying will make you no better in game. also give me one example of a way that valve can know who deserved reports and who didnt? they cant. besides its rare to be reported like that the worst ive gotten is when I was muted because, I will admit, I was being a ♥♥♥♥.
Nik May 4, 2016 @ 1:36pm 
buhu i played long time league of legends and well same ♥♥♥♥♥♥ community and cry babys in forum like u im so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ suprise every complain u called would apply on league.
Last edited by Nik; May 4, 2016 @ 1:40pm
ChubbNutt May 4, 2016 @ 1:39pm 
Originally posted by Darkseid.:
A forced 50/50 win percentage.
Stopped reading there.
Last edited by ChubbNutt; May 4, 2016 @ 1:39pm
Fish's Wishes May 4, 2016 @ 2:12pm 
Some one is :steamsalty::steamsalty:
Moon Helldiver May 4, 2016 @ 2:23pm 
Because it is absolutely unforgivable to new players.
Because it has absolutely zero comeback mechanisms. Your mid die 5 times and the game is over.
Becuase it hwas the worst community there is.
Russians even in Peruvian server.
Yozh May 4, 2016 @ 2:53pm 
Originally posted by Darkseid.:
I have been playing Dota for quite some time and have loved it for the most part, until Valve took control of it. Yes, Valve has ruined this game, putting making a profit above all everything else, even its player base. Though Valve transformed this game by creating better looking models and terrain, they have forgotten what Dota is all about. The player base has now become one of the worst, if not THEE worst, game with terrible obnoxious players. The discussion board is flooded with complaints against them game and the choices Valve implements, so why do we continue to play it? The matchmaking system has to be the biggest joke out there, even LoL and HoN have incorporated a MUCH better system that Valve cannot compete with, nor do they want to. A forced 50/50 win percentage is just another way of telling the player base to stick it. Every game is flooded with people who do not speak the same language and trolls. You may say that is "every game" but not to the far reaching extent Dota 2 has incorporated. I am ashamed to call myself a Dota player and will be now looking for another game that actually cares about their players, not just the profits. If you are not playing on a team of five teammates, good luck, your game has already been lost. YOU didn't pick the support? GG, reported. You didn't land your stun for your carry and they died? RAGE REPORTED. Then comes the LPQ system, biggest mess I've ever seen. Have to WIN your games by being placed on a "bottom of the barrell" team, with the worst players in Dota and actually expect to win a game? If you were eported for being a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ like 95% of everyone else, you deserve it. If you were reported for the aforementioned reasons, then obviously Valve doesn't give a ♥♥♥♥ about you. I remember playing on DotaCash on WC3, and the game was SO much more fun and more of a balance of teams. Spend your money to make your toons look good but lets not actually give the players what they want, make teams more balanced and fair, and fix the LPQ system. Lets just make the Same heroes OP and untouchable. Valve has ruined every game they touched, from Counter-Strike, Team Fortress, Day of Defeat, any game they pick up, they ruin.

I have been playing Dota 2 for about two years. I can not speak to what Valve is or is not doing with the game. I believe the obnoxious stuff stands out but the majority of the players are friendly, helpful and cooperative. The complaints in discussion threads also stand out, especially poor spelling, but from time to time there are some great discussions and fun ones too.

I think that the Dota 2 blog explains matchmaking well and while I would like to seemore player chosen search parameters added, I think such will increase match finding times. I believe the forced 50% win rate is a myth. The blog also explains this. If you are winning about 50% of the time but your rating is increasing, you are doing well.

Matches I have played differ so much from each other it is hard to categorize play. I think the best players (and I am a bad player) go in with the expectation that they will be playing any role, any hero and look for a way to win with the team mates they have, and they move on to the next match.

Having to spend money on the game is not necessary. Rather, the free-to-play, pay if you want, model likely accounts for a fairly large player base. I don't like every thing about the game but I like enough. Furthermore, the game works, unlike some paid games that no longer work because something was altered with a patch. So I will stick around. I'm glad you shared your thoughts on Dota as well. It seems worth checking out. I was a fan of Warcraft II and quite enjoyed it. Hope things improve.
Rabbit 🍌 May 4, 2016 @ 3:01pm 
Originally posted by Major Elim Rawne:
Because it has absolutely zero comeback mechanisms. Your mid die 5 times and the game is over.

That is all, but true. Dota comeback mechanics is almost broken. I've got games where we won like 5 teamfights and never lost one, but since we lost a single teamfight at min 25 we were never able to retake the advantage. If your other lanes don't feed, kill the ennemy mid 2 times and it will give you so much gold and xp that you will be able to come back. It can even be positive if the ennemy wins the early games, because when your team as a disavantage even farming give you a lot more gold than is does to your ennemy. So if your team is behind, but your carry is farming in peace, he will get fat really quick.
Big Dick May 4, 2016 @ 3:45pm 
Step 1: Punch self in face
Step 2: Get a life
Step 3: Realise your role in being offended and mute if must
Step 4: Punch self in face
Last edited by Big Dick; May 4, 2016 @ 3:45pm
Си́нтез May 4, 2016 @ 3:56pm 
Originally posted by xzMagnumChili:
Step 1: Punch self in face
Step 2: Get a life
Step 3: Realise your role in being offended and mute if must
Step 4: Punch self in face
aren't you violent
Mr. Raider May 4, 2016 @ 5:00pm 
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