Does echo sabre make sense on FV?

[GLHF]

I figured it would, but i generally go by the guides, which don't show it as a FV weapon.

[BloodOwl]

not really that good on him, since he's an agility hero, so he probably won't lack attack speed, and he doesn't really need hp cause his ult stuns everyone and echo sabre is more of an early fighting item that works better on strength hero cause of the stats it gives

[Just end trashbag.]

Originally posted by HmmWhat'sThatDo:

I figured it would, but i generally go by the guides, which don't show it as a FV weapon.

fv only need speed that echo. echo sabre not giving any bonus like mk and slark unless your luck higher tan everyone in this world.

[Rabbit 🍌]

At the same time Void do lack of hp and he will need some attack speed items early on because other if nobody help in chrono your barely get a kill.

[BloodOwl]

Originally posted by Rabbitking78:

At the same time Void do lack of hp and he will need some attack speed items early on because other if nobody help in chrono your barely get a kill.

hp is not a stat that you're looking to get on faceless, sure hp can be useful but you can pretty much say that for every hero, and other items give more attack speed for less gold

[chessboxer]

echo would give more chance to bash on the first attack

[Rabbit 🍌]

I'm pretty sure echo used to be good for the double chance to bash and the slow in particular, but today if you want to slow you get diffusal and you'll get more attack in the end with the agi.

[Zagryzaec]

Why do you need manta in standard void build and where is your bkb?

[Zagryzaec]

Because without it void is running as a piggy in chromosphere instead of using all his items. Or stunned, or disarmed and so on.

You cannot attack at all in Chrono if you have no bkb and void supposed to deal most damage in Chrono.

He also need attack speed more then just stats, as big amount of his damage cones from procs wether it bash, mjolnir, mkb or anything else.

You only get manta against characters with early silence skills or roots to preserve your bkb duration.

Bkb is basically a must on any carry and an "I'm ready to fight" item.

[KIMC]

it may help to proc the passive but is not so good since you already have slows, so its a wasted feature from the sabre

[Zagryzaec]

Originally posted by SGT_pawn_TuK:

Originally posted by Zagryzaec:

Because without it void is running as a piggy in chromosphere instead of using all his items. Or stunned, or disarmed and so on.

All you need to do is position right and you can skip bkb.

Originally posted by Zagryzaec:

You only get manta against characters with early silence skills or roots to preserve your bkb duration.

That's not why Manta is in the build, it does other things, m8.


I didnt understand your other points, not because of the English, that's almost perfect. It's because I pretty much answered them in the build, that you obv didnt fully read.

Not sure why im hitting post, seeing how you didnt even read the build...

Make no mistakes I read your post thoroughly.

You can position yourself against lich with + 200 cast range and hex? It's prettyuch fullscreen.

Against bane with lense and talent?

Honestly skipping bkb on carries especially void is very bad idea. Game losing one, unless enemy have a team of I don't know what. I've been winning a lot of games because of this mistake and I don't see void enemy that often.

Manta is usually taken for it's dispell. Yes it gives speed of movement and some stats but it is usually not enough to kill people in Chrono and not that much needed to farm as void is mobile with his timewalk. Survivability is also not that important for void as he doesn't manfight but deals his damage in cheonosphere. You also often have to choose between this and bkb and bkb actually guarantee that you will be the one deciding outcome of the match and not enemy supports. Unless you want "forced fifty".

[Zealot]

I think it's cause it doesn't give AGL so you're only getting it for the quick 2 attacks and slow you want all AGL items with AGL heroes

[2touch]

If voids passive hasnt cooldown, maybe echo is a good item

[Zagryzaec]

Void passive may proc from another void passive, and sabre just don't suit void. If you need as you take early mom. If you need slow - either skill or diffuse, can work with manta too, not that void need any more control then Chrono.

[Zagryzaec]

You don't do a lot of damage with sabre, you not monkey king, and you don't gank solo, that's impossible and nonsensical.

[Rabbit 🍌]

Mk, Slardar, Tiny and maybe Chaos night are pretty much the only ones who pick saber anyway these days.