Can you pull ancient creeps to invade and attack your lane creeps on ALL Lanes?

[Angelatic Birdy]

I saw a friend pull ancient creeps on top and bottom allied creeps, but I was wondering if it was doable on all lanes? (All Radiant and Dire lanes)

I can pull the enemy creeps to follow me into jungle mobs or to make it easier to farm, but the risk of that is that the enemy can nuke me if I arent carefull of using that tactic

Anyone know how this works?
(this could help me if my minions are pushed too much into enemy side)

[Ulthwé]

I think it is called cutting waves although I don't do it. Heroes like timbersaw, axe, dark seer do this kind of thing! Yo8 don't even need to bring them to jungle creeps, you can pull 1 or maybe even 2 waves if you are tanky and bring them on your lane, close to your tower!

[Imperial Being]

Originally posted by Angelatic-Birdy:

I saw a friend pull ancient creeps on top and bottom allied creeps, but I was wondering if it was doable on all lanes? (All Radiant and Dire lanes)

I can pull the enemy creeps to follow me into jungle mobs or to make it easier to farm, but the risk of that is that the enemy can nuke me if I arent carefull of using that tactic

Anyone know how this works?
(this could help me if my minions are pushed too much into enemy side)

AS far as i know...

In bot lane radiant there are 2 camps that you can pull to your own creeps, and in radiant top u can pull 1 wave to your creeps..

On dire top u can again pull 2 waves and on dire bot u can pull 1 wave..

I never saw or heard anyone pulling ancient creeps.. i dont think that works..

[Angelatic Birdy]

Thank you for the reply, wasnt sure how to call non ancient jungle creeps, so I gave all jungle creeps the same name

(Still a fledgeling here even though I have some League experience and a little bit of dota experience and a bit of advice from a friend who mainly plays dota 2 )

Do you also happen to know a right time to pull the jungle creeps into your own lane minions?
Or do the type of jungle mobs decide that factor?

[Dark Sun Gwyndolin]

Originally posted by Angelatic-Birdy:

Thank you for the reply, wasnt sure how to call non ancient jungle creeps, so I gave all jungle creeps the same name

(Still a fledgeling here even though I have some League experience and a little bit of dota experience and a bit of advice from a friend who mainly plays dota 2 )

Do you also happen to know a right time to pull the jungle creeps into your own lane minions?
Or do the type of jungle mobs decide that factor?

If your pulling the small camp near the safelane T1 tower (bot for Radiant, top for Dire), pull at the X:15 and X:45 mark. For the large camp near the offlane T1 (opposite, can be used by both sides), pull around the X:18 or X:48 mark.

[Angelatic Birdy]

Thank you for the advice will try to master the timing and the pulling! ^^

[RadCon One]

Originally posted by Pelitunnus05:

Originally posted by Angelatic-Birdy:

I saw a friend pull ancient creeps on top and bottom allied creeps, but I was wondering if it was doable on all lanes? (All Radiant and Dire lanes)

I can pull the enemy creeps to follow me into jungle mobs or to make it easier to farm, but the risk of that is that the enemy can nuke me if I arent carefull of using that tactic

Anyone know how this works?
(this could help me if my minions are pushed too much into enemy side)

AS far as i know...

In bot lane radiant there are 2 camps that you can pull to your own creeps, and in radiant top u can pull 1 wave to your creeps..

On dire top u can again pull 2 waves and on dire bot u can pull 1 wave..

I never saw or heard anyone pulling ancient creeps.. i dont think that works..

It does, I did it with Terrorblade pretty frequently. When I felt like pushing I would just send an illusion ahead of me to draw the enemy wave's aggro and lead them into the jungle, (ancients in particular a map prior) so that my creeps hit the tower with me instead of other creeps (which also prevents me from being the tower's target).

[Imperial Being]

I dont usually check the time when pulling..
I do it by watching where my creeps are walking..
to pull creeps at the camp closer to you base, on radiant side, wait till creeps have paseed tier 2 tower and then some.. to pull the camp closer to enemys base.. wait for creeps to walk on tier 1 of your towers.. i suggest cutting some tree to make the pull easier, in the camp that is closer to enemy tower..

Same goes for dire..

You should go to a bot match and try it out so you get the point and u can even check the times that work..

Btw your heroes movement speed affects the pulling times..
Slower heroes need more time to make the pull

However when stacking camps, you should be aware of the stack times.. usually about at 55.. also depends where you pull em and with what hero..

Again you could just test these out in a bot match, to find working times..

[Imperial Being]

Originally posted by Entropy:

Originally posted by Pelitunnus05:

AS far as i know...

In bot lane radiant there are 2 camps that you can pull to your own creeps, and in radiant top u can pull 1 wave to your creeps..

On dire top u can again pull 2 waves and on dire bot u can pull 1 wave..

I never saw or heard anyone pulling ancient creeps.. i dont think that works..

It does, I did it with Terrorblade pretty frequently. When I felt like pushing I would just send an illusion ahead of me to draw the enemy wave's aggro and lead them into the jungle, (ancients in particular a map prior) so that my creeps hit the tower with me instead of other creeps (which also prevents me from being the tower's target).

Maybe possible in some prior map.. but so was even cliff jungling.. however i dont think it works now.. the creeps seem to refuse to attack any neutral camp except the ones right next to the lane.. (4 camps in total)