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clab Sep 2, 2014 @ 2:02pm
Mjolnir vs Battlefury
Which is the better item all-around for, say, a hero like Juggernaut?
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Battlefury because Jug is a mana-blackhole.
Fergus Sep 2, 2014 @ 2:08pm 
I will start by saying not that Juggernaut is one my favorate heros in the game and I would advise you to attept to get a battlefury by 20 mins, if this happens farm will just at it's peak. To be honest I will get a mjolnir as my 4th item as aghs comes as a priority. However to anwser your question they are both very good items for him but if you want very good farm and regen, go BF. Mjolnir is also good for farm but it depends if you want to help out your team earlier but the attack speed is just BEAutiful to watch.

Hope this helps

Fergus
ShadowViper Sep 2, 2014 @ 2:11pm 
BF for most melee heroes since its the only decent dmg + hp/mana regen item in game and the AOE helps with farming faster
KsoChZ Sep 2, 2014 @ 2:21pm 
For jug get Mjollinir because it gives amazing attack speed which allows you to attack faster in between each omnislash slash and it improves your farming speed by quite a bit too. A lot of people don't understand that BFury is really only a farming tool on every hero except Ember spirit.

Attack speed is precious on a hero like jug because of his low BAT, and this doesn't account for the fact that you can auto attack during your omnislash meaning more attack speed = more auto attacks in between each slash which = more DPS.

If you are constantly low on mana when playing jug just get a drums and be very mana efficient meaning don't spin to farm, don't throw up wards nonstop etc.......

TL'DR Mjollinir > Battlefury ( with an exception of playing against illusion heroes )
Last edited by KsoChZ; Sep 2, 2014 @ 2:26pm
clab Sep 2, 2014 @ 3:04pm 
Good to know. I have useed both, and though the regen is nice from BF, I think building a Mjoliner will help Juggernaut come online faster by getting an early Maelstrom. Regen wise, I usually just get items to boost my mana because the healing ward is insanely good.
KsoChZ Sep 2, 2014 @ 3:05pm 
Originally posted by xCFx.HuE:
Good to know. I have useed both, and though the regen is nice from BF, I think building a Mjoliner will help Juggernaut come online faster by getting an early Maelstrom. Regen wise, I usually just get items to boost my mana because the healing ward is insanely good.

Yeah Mjollinir is generally the better item to get. You would honestly be surprised at how much a casual Clarity can help with his mana issues.
Get Drums to increase his mana pool. And then Desolator because it works nicely with Omnislash. BFury is a farming tool. Mjollnir - just why?
Last edited by The Almighty.; Sep 2, 2014 @ 3:10pm
KsoChZ Sep 2, 2014 @ 3:13pm 
Originally posted by The Almighty.:
Get Drums to increase his mana pool. And then Desolator because it works nicely with Omnislash. BFury is a farming tool. Mjollnir - just why?

Because attack speed is freaking amazing on jug because you can auto attack in between omnislash jumps and lightening will still proc.
Last edited by KsoChZ; Sep 2, 2014 @ 3:19pm
ShadowViper Sep 2, 2014 @ 3:22pm 
Attack speed IS amazing till you realize you need mana to use one of your abilities in a team fight.....
KsoChZ Sep 2, 2014 @ 3:55pm 
Originally posted by ShadowViper:
Attack speed IS amazing till you realize you need mana to use one of your abilities in a team fight.....

Get drums and learn to conserve your mana, problem solved.
Gibi Sep 2, 2014 @ 4:12pm 
Static shield is one of the stronger actives in dota. So yeah. Mjolnir>bfury
yote Sep 2, 2014 @ 4:22pm 
mjolnir after aghs for jugs
clab Sep 2, 2014 @ 4:29pm 
Originally posted by ShadowViper:
Attack speed IS amazing till you realize you need mana to use one of your abilities in a team fight.....
What I love to do is get a early Soul Ring. Solves Jugs mana problems and allows him to cast a healing ward for free if you need HP
Myst?c Sep 2, 2014 @ 4:44pm 
Originally posted by KsoChZ:
For jug get Mjollinir because it gives amazing attack speed which allows you to attack faster in between each omnislash slash and it improves your farming speed by quite a bit too. A lot of people don't understand that BFury is really only a farming tool on every hero except Ember spirit.

Attack speed is precious on a hero like jug because of his low BAT, and this doesn't account for the fact that you can auto attack during your omnislash meaning more attack speed = more auto attacks in between each slash which = more DPS.

If you are constantly low on mana when playing jug just get a drums and be very mana efficient meaning don't spin to farm, don't throw up wards nonstop etc.......

TL'DR Mjollinir > Battlefury ( with an exception of playing against illusion heroes )
battlefury first imo, better for splashing your ulti damage around, and increases your damage from right click massivly while ultiing
KsoChZ Sep 2, 2014 @ 5:26pm 
Originally posted by blade blaster56745:
Originally posted by KsoChZ:
For jug get Mjollinir because it gives amazing attack speed which allows you to attack faster in between each omnislash slash and it improves your farming speed by quite a bit too. A lot of people don't understand that BFury is really only a farming tool on every hero except Ember spirit.

Attack speed is precious on a hero like jug because of his low BAT, and this doesn't account for the fact that you can auto attack during your omnislash meaning more attack speed = more auto attacks in between each slash which = more DPS.

If you are constantly low on mana when playing jug just get a drums and be very mana efficient meaning don't spin to farm, don't throw up wards nonstop etc.......

TL'DR Mjollinir > Battlefury ( with an exception of playing against illusion heroes )
battlefury first imo, better for splashing your ulti damage around, and increases your damage from right click massivly while ultiing

The omnislash jumps don't cleave, it's the auto attacks in between the jumps that cleave. So therefore if you have a faster attack speed aka mjollinir you will output more DPS.
Last edited by KsoChZ; Sep 2, 2014 @ 5:30pm
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