Silencer :the most under-rated Hard carry in the game

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When people talk about hard carries, people say void, medusa, spectre,phantom lancer etc.
No one talks of silencer, which i think is wrong.
Technically Silencer should be the hardest carry of all, with his intelligence steal.
the longer the game goes more scope for him to get stonger, other heroes will max out with 6 slots but silencer can keep going beyond six slots.

why is he not rated so highly, he has very good stats gain overall too.
Still people dont count him as a scary hard carry

[Lahel]

引用自 Peace：

silencer is one of the most scary carry in late game, he is not underrated, just hard to be good with him. If he got enough farm he can shutdown enemy team and wipe out them with pure damage.

Shutdown enemy team? ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Silencer can't do that unless getting ridiculous farm, and by that time you have real carries like phantom assassin that kills you in one hit. If you really want extra pure damage use outworld devourer or something, who can deal as much pure damage at level 8 as a level 20 silencer.

[Lahel]

Silencer is rated very highly as a support/initiator, and can be used as a semi carry. But no not a hard carry. Not even close. Infinite scale doesn't make a hero strong. It doesn't even scale that fast. To deal 150 extra pure damage you need 200 intelligence, 100 of with can be gained with starting and levels. Meaning you need 50+kills/assists. Really?

[76561198124175680]

引用自 Lich gonna have your mana：

Silencer is rated very highly as a support/initiator, and can be used as a semi carry. But no not a hard carry. Not even close. Infinite scale doesn't make a hero strong. It doesn't even scale that fast. To deal 150 extra pure damage you need 200 intelligence, 100 of with can be gained with starting and levels. Meaning you need 50+kills/assists. Really?

Guys you do realize that its intelligence stolen,
Tanky heroes if they die early near silencer wont have mana to carry out the teamfights.
The longer the game goes, a team with silencer has far better chance of winning than any other late game carry.

[Lahel]

引用自 Losing Streak：

引用自 Lich gonna have your mana：

Silencer is rated very highly as a support/initiator, and can be used as a semi carry. But no not a hard carry. Not even close. Infinite scale doesn't make a hero strong. It doesn't even scale that fast. To deal 150 extra pure damage you need 200 intelligence, 100 of with can be gained with starting and levels. Meaning you need 50+kills/assists. Really?

Guys you do realize that its intelligence stolen,
Tanky heroes if they die early near silencer wont have mana to carry out the teamfights.
The longer the game goes, a team with silencer has far better chance of winning than any other late game carry.

2 permanent intelligence does very little.
OD can steal 40 intelligence temporarily during the laning phase.

[Intelligent Heavy]

Using that logic pudge is an even harder carry gaining both strength and damage, and his skillset means that he can both gank and farm his items potentially making him tanky as ♥♥♥♥, and able to hit like a truck

[docks]

Silencer is a hard carry that's very good but needs to be babysat. He WILL get outcarried at equal farm, but silencer is really good at killing enemy carries if given a good start. To everyone ranting about random downsides. Get fast midas and you can level fast and stomp teamfights (while boosting ur gpm) , so go midas > drum > force > Shivas / Hex / Orchid ( I dont reccomend orchid, i like playing silencer carry as full tank and unkillable, if you go orchid make it last and 2nd to last I reccomend) But with Midas > Treads > Drum > Force > (should have all this around 35 mins LATEST) shivas (40-45 mins LATEST) and hex (55 mins LATEST) you should be able to do about 400 pure dmg per glaive from just your items, be unkillable unless enemy carry is fed, and then have HUGE teamfight impact with drums force hex and shivas. Sell midas and make whatever, preferably aghs refresher or orchid.

[Issac Freeman]

♥♥♥♥♥ please tell me how many visage players you have seen in your last 20 games

[docks]

引用自 David Tennant：

♥♥♥♥♥ please tell me how many visage players you have seen in your last 20 games

Literally 0 xD. Visage has fallen off a lot since nerfs and is literally useless when silenced, because that disables his souls which is his best skill by far

[Haunted Aigis Plushie]

But he isn't really a hard carry.

He's a semi carry, or a late blooming threat if anything. He can't quite wipe a whole team at once. He is certainly a force of nature, though.

[docks]

引用自 Clockwork Rainbowdash：

But he isn't really a hard carry.

He's a semi carry, or a late blooming threat if anything. He can't quite wipe a whole team at once. He is certainly a force of nature, though.

If he gets good farm early (not even like amazing) he can be dishing out 150 pure dmg for 15 mana every 2 seconds or so. Around 25 mins. I did it earlier today, silencer is definetly not late hes mid game. Lategame sure he has a ton of pure damage but enemies have a lot of hp. He peaks off 50 mins at best

[docks]

引用自 Pyro Penguin：

too many people to quote saying silencer is countered by bkb, but if the enemy uses bkb b4 silencer ults, his ult goes thru bkb, pretty sure thats the only silence in the game that can counter magic immunity

+1

[The Giant Rat]

Pudge has strength gain, doesn't that mean he's the best carry?

[Kimber Prime]

I love playing Silencer in a few different roles. He's awesome! He can snowball great too. XD

[Rusty Knight]

He`s not had carry. Silencer can be played as semi-carry (as i`m playing) with Orchid, Aghs, SoV, and other int items, but he`ll never be a hard carry, because, you know, BKB and he`s losing most of his damage, even the glaives.

[Trazz]

It takes way too many kills for his INT steal to have a major effect, and if it does, your already better without it