Dota 2
Fort Yves Aug 22, 2022 @ 2:37am
Remember When Players Used to Pick Position 3 as Tank?
Back in the day, the usual pick for Position 3 was a Tank/Initiatior. You know, someone who frontlines and takes much of the beating in clashes.

But now, Position 3 is the new Position 1 and 2 and apparently it's up to the Position 4 and Position 5 to take the roll of the tank. Gosh, playing Support receives so much love.
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Ann☆゚.*・。 Aug 22, 2022 @ 2:52am 
if you can kill them fast enough, there's no reason to pick tank, right?
76561199060249884 Aug 22, 2022 @ 3:32am 
Because most popular tank heroes are not meta.
hellatze Aug 22, 2022 @ 3:38am 
Originally posted by Fort Yves:
Back in the day, the usual pick for Position 3 was a Tank/Initiatior. You know, someone who frontlines and takes much of the beating in clashes.

But now, Position 3 is the new Position 1 and 2 and apparently it's up to the Position 4 and Position 5 to take the roll of the tank. Gosh, playing Support receives so much love.
No point of tank in dota they dies in second
Ulthwé Aug 22, 2022 @ 3:40am 
There are still tanky pos 3 picked in higher ranks. Axe, bristle back and dawn breaker are good example of that.
:D Aug 22, 2022 @ 3:55am 
it will comeback dont worry :) its just the meta
Ulthwé Aug 22, 2022 @ 4:07am 
Originally posted by hellatze:
Originally posted by Fort Yves:
Back in the day, the usual pick for Position 3 was a Tank/Initiatior. You know, someone who frontlines and takes much of the beating in clashes.

But now, Position 3 is the new Position 1 and 2 and apparently it's up to the Position 4 and Position 5 to take the roll of the tank. Gosh, playing Support receives so much love.
No point of tank in dota they dies in second

Tell that to a good pudge, bristle or centaur.
Tidehunter be like, these my waters....

(When poor man's shield was a thing)
Last edited by JJ, Professional Fool; Aug 22, 2022 @ 4:13am
Originally posted by Fort Yves:
Back in the day, the usual pick for Position 3 was a Tank/Initiatior. You know, someone who frontlines and takes much of the beating in clashes.

But now, Position 3 is the new Position 1 and 2 and apparently it's up to the Position 4 and Position 5 to take the roll of the tank. Gosh, playing Support receives so much love.

I think you are heavily mistaken by your definition of position

Position have always been the resource(gold/exp) priority from the start of the game and mobas genre with pos1 carry highest to pos5 support the lowest and never x role for position x the only reason x role for position x was due to simplicity of role

I get it you want some random dumb pub teammates to pick just tank pos3 as a checklist which used to be good traditionally in earlier dota 2 days and meta where most players didn't know everything but that's not a good measure anymore because over the years players have found out that almost every thing in dota2 is situational depending on both teams lineup

Tank as pos3 is just safe pick not a needed pick most of the time because pos3 is a position based on resource priority not a role priority and sometimes just picking a tank is not a role certain lineup will need and then realistically in pubs across all the ranks below immortal players dont know how to coordinate and utilize their tanks or teammates making this role useless telling this from pos3 tank experience

I play varied roles but mainly pos3 and amount of times players have reported me for playing niche unorthodox roles in pos3 is too high even when I dominated the lane and game with unorthodox niche methods

If you can get your job of position done with alternative methods then noone should be complaining honestly this just tells me you need more experience with the game and be roles can be picked and done by almost any position if you strategize lineup well

The reason why pos3 role lineups are changing is simply due to more farm than before and newer requirement for pos3

Traditional pos3 requirement was to survive much as possible and not feed which tank was very good for but thats not good enough for modern dota 2 because now you need to do all that and be almost on equal terms or dominate enemy safe lane as pos3 to be successful where tank is not good enough role to do that

Check og pos3 atf hero lineups its both tank heros like timber, mars, centaur, dk and unorthodox carry hero lineups like viper, razor, night stalker, void spirit etc

I hope you get it
Big Dog Aug 22, 2022 @ 5:20am 
The thing is, in dota you only need 1 hero on your team that can "tank" aka tank towers or rosh. There is no such thing as "tanking" in teamfights cause good players are just gonna ignore you first, kill the non-tanky heroes on your team first, then kill you.

And a lot of str carries can tank towers without worry. Any carry who builds heart can aswell. Even nature's prophet can tank via treants. etc.

Also supports shouldn't be "tanks" aka focusing on tanking towers or rosh. If you have no tank on your team for those you hopefully have someone who can solo rosh like Ursa and someone who can outrange towers with dragon lance or shadowshaman's ult to push towers or jakiro or leshrac or something.
Last edited by Big Dog; Aug 22, 2022 @ 5:23am
The reason you don't get tank offlaners is because tank cores are better right now. Hero's like core Bristle, Tiny, Lone Druid shred through tank offlaners. And offlaners won't be as farmed to be tanky into late game unless they are strong early. Axe is probably best tanky offlaner.

I think I've been seeing more pos 4's play the tank position to be honest. They are still targeted first by the enemy because they are less tanky than your cores because they have less farm, and give cores more time to do damage.
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Date Posted: Aug 22, 2022 @ 2:37am
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