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cool dude Jun 17, 2022 @ 7:46am
is drow ranger a carry hero like juggernaut ?
^^?
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Rambit Jun 17, 2022 @ 7:51am 
of course
Big Dog Jun 17, 2022 @ 7:54am 
Drow is a great carry but gets countered by some heroes kinda hard. Str heroes who like to build armor items are really good against her. Meanwhile Agi carries get absolutely destroyed by her ult.
cool dude Jun 17, 2022 @ 7:57am 
ok....
Zagryzaec Jun 17, 2022 @ 8:50am 
Originally posted by cool dude:
^^?
She is carry hero no doubts but very unlike juggernaut

Jugger has a ton of survivability built in and can safely split. Drow is very fragile and team dependent.
76561199268299562 Jun 17, 2022 @ 9:08am 
Both heroes are easily countered if your team is ♥♥♥♥ .
Umrite Jun 17, 2022 @ 9:11am 
Originally posted by South East Asian Garbage:
Both heroes are easily countered if your team is ♥♥♥♥ .
You can counter this by uninstalling the game
teleamachus Jun 17, 2022 @ 9:27am 
i've heard many people struggle with farming early on with drow due to her attacks having a projectile and the land time prediction being difficult to master, possibly due to the variety in timing ranged heroes have between attack animations and projectile speeds. jugg is probably easier to farm with, but drow has more killthreat at level 6 due to her ult being passive and thus having no cooldown, as opposed to jugg's omnislash having a very long cooldown and him being quite vulnerable without it.

like Deadly Queen said, drow shreds through agi cores because her ult procs ignore base armor - agility builds base armor, so heroes like morphling that have high agi as one of their advantages are countered by this. the only way they can deal with her ult is by focusing her quickly, which makes them vulnerable, or standing on top of her to disable it, which also makes them easy to initiate on

jug has magic damage whereas drow does not. with shard, drow can hinder regen abilities, which makes her a good choice against heroes like timbersaw and necro that rely on their regen to be as strong as they are - effectively, drow has a 1400 gold skadi without the stats. these heroes often build armor when playing vs drow since non-base armor piled up can very easily mitigate drow's damage, otherwise there aren't many other ways to play against her

juggernaut, on the other hand, has a lot of survivability, and often builds stat items that make him harder to kill and a more dangerous target. like with most carries, you can typically disable cores until they're dead in the later stages of the game, but until you have those disables available, juggernaut is a very angry beehive with a nearly 55% winrate this month. with proper support, both jug and drow are scary to play against when they've been given space for farming, but both can also be dealt with in pretty straightforward ways. jug just has built in spell immunity and magic damage, as well as a plethora of mechanics working in his favor, that make him a great option for players like myself that prefer heroes who swarm or frontline. jug also hits buildings mega hard compared to drow so if you wanted to rat much with him you generally can
Big Dog Jun 17, 2022 @ 4:26pm 
Originally posted by Anal Cyst Analyst GB/#McYS:
i've heard many people struggle with farming early on with drow due to her attacks having a projectile and the land time prediction being difficult to master, possibly due to the variety in timing ranged heroes have between attack animations and projectile speeds. jugg is probably easier to farm with, but drow has more killthreat at level 6 due to her ult being passive and thus having no cooldown, as opposed to jugg's omnislash having a very long cooldown and him being quite vulnerable without it.

like Deadly Queen said, drow shreds through agi cores because her ult procs ignore base armor - agility builds base armor, so heroes like morphling that have high agi as one of their advantages are countered by this. the only way they can deal with her ult is by focusing her quickly, which makes them vulnerable, or standing on top of her to disable it, which also makes them easy to initiate on

jug has magic damage whereas drow does not. with shard, drow can hinder regen abilities, which makes her a good choice against heroes like timbersaw and necro that rely on their regen to be as strong as they are - effectively, drow has a 1400 gold skadi without the stats. these heroes often build armor when playing vs drow since non-base armor piled up can very easily mitigate drow's damage, otherwise there aren't many other ways to play against her

juggernaut, on the other hand, has a lot of survivability, and often builds stat items that make him harder to kill and a more dangerous target. like with most carries, you can typically disable cores until they're dead in the later stages of the game, but until you have those disables available, juggernaut is a very angry beehive with a nearly 55% winrate this month. with proper support, both jug and drow are scary to play against when they've been given space for farming, but both can also be dealt with in pretty straightforward ways. jug just has built in spell immunity and magic damage, as well as a plethora of mechanics working in his favor, that make him a great option for players like myself that prefer heroes who swarm or frontline. jug also hits buildings mega hard compared to drow so if you wanted to rat much with him you generally can


Drow is awesome hero cause of the Gust. It's one of the best skills in the game. It can decide teamfights especially in lower mmr's were people don't get dispels or bkbs to deal with it. I would argue shadowblade is a MUST buy for drow and then the fact you have a shadowblade drow on your team means the enemy jungle / safelane is now a death trap for the enemy if you guys just play there and kill any enemy hero that comes there or to your triangle or pushes mid or offlane and since dragonlance is also pretty much a must buy on the hero it means that when you guys can clear all that in 30 seconds you can just protect drow for the last 30 as she kills enemy towers. Also if enemy has bkb it usually still means you out dps them cause your hero does 0 magic damage, it only stops multishot. I also recommend lifesteal (and later satanic for dispel if it goes late), crit (for your ult passive to really hurt) and bkb. I agree with you that shard is skadi and I don't understand high level players who rush skadi on the hero makes no sense.


tl;dr: pick heroes with OP skills and win games.


also never pick drow into mars that hero is like a hard counter. (his ult can block all your dps for 7 seconds if the mars plays it well
Last edited by Big Dog; Jun 26, 2022 @ 8:47am
cool dude Jun 26, 2022 @ 2:15am 
what about tiny guys ?
Big Dog Jun 26, 2022 @ 8:47am 
Originally posted by cool dude:
what about tiny guys ?

Tiny is always gonna be good in all roles cause his Ult is OP free armor and he has 2 nukes that both stun / stop tp's.
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