So they made Outworld Devourer useless

[Aronix]

For some reason valve decided to nerf Outworld Devourer, which was an EXTREMELY situational hero pre 7.20. They removed OD's signature passive which grants him infinite mana in the mid-late game and enables him to use his first ability "Arcane orb" indefinitely

They replaced Essence Aura with a garbage active ability which has a 20 second cooldown that restores mana based on how much damage you dealt. It looked good on paper but god is it ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ atrocious in game. You can no longer flash farm with Arcane orb and in teamfights you are limited to about 4 or 5 attacks in the mid game because the new active doesnt even give you back the mana you spent on arcane orb.

Valve just ruined one of my all time favorite heroes and i hope they roll back this ridiculous change soon because there is no logic behind it what so ever.

[Ser Pounce]

Originally posted by Aronix:

For some reason valve decided to nerf Outworld Devourer, which was an EXTREMELY situational hero pre 7.20. They removed OD's signature passive which grants him infinite mana in the mid-late game and enables him to use his first ability "Arcane orb" indefinitely

They replaced Essence Aura with a garbage active ability which has a 20 second cooldown that restores mana based on how much damage you dealt. It looked good on paper but god is it ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ atrocious in game. You can no longer flash farm with Arcane orb and in teamfights you are limited to about 4 or 5 attacks in the mid game because the new active doesnt even give you back the mana you spent on arcane orb.

Valve just ruined one of my all time favorite heroes and i hope they roll back this ridiculous change soon because there is no logic behind it what so ever.

Don't worry, he'll probably get some buffs.

[Aronix]

I sure hope so. I mean honestly, what were they thinking!?

I'd be fine if a hyper meta hero like axe who has seen a pick rate above 15% and a win rate well over 50% for the past two years was nerfed into oblivion to freshen up the game a bit but no! screw that! Lets urinate on the barely played heroes some more, right?

[hy]

OD nurf

So has od been nurfed again?

Od got buff in 7.20b, and he will getting more buff in next patch

[R A Z E R]

Originally posted by laz:

Od got buff in 7.20b, and he will getting more buff in next patch

How is exactly taking away his core passive considered a buff? Same goes for lich's mana skill being replaced with a mediocre sleep skill...

Originally posted by Razer:

Originally posted by laz:

Od got buff in 7.20b, and he will getting more buff in next patch

How is exactly taking away his core passive considered a buff? Same goes for lich's mana skill being replaced with a mediocre sleep skill...

I said 7.20b not 7.20, the new third skill is made because the first skill got rework into having splash damage, if he still got the passive od will become another broken hero , and for lich i think the new skill is far much more interesting than the old one

[Postoim Posmotrim]

he was uselles in previous patches too so what is the problem?

[R A Z E R]

Originally posted by laz:

Originally posted by Razer:

How is exactly taking away his core passive considered a buff? Same goes for lich's mana skill being replaced with a mediocre sleep skill...

I said 7.20b not 7.20, the new third skill is made because the first skill got rework into having splash damage, if he still got the passive od will become another broken hero , and for lich i think the new skill is far much more interesting than the old one

I think on lich that his reworked frost shield is amazing.. He's in early to mana dependent now, making you to choose whenever you want to shield your carry or that you want harras the lane.. Played lich 2 days ago and that frost shield is a very strong skill... Imo the new hypno/sleep skill was kinda mediocre, didn't actually use it that much because it didn't had any purpose other than a few situational plays..

[Absche]

Changes = challenges; everybody is asked to adapt now. Aren‘t video gamers looking for challenges?

[hy]

completely agree. OD hasn't been picked by pros for probably more than 2 years now and I recently started playing the hero. Was getting okay at him but realised if your team has no pushing power or without the right composition of team you will eventually lose even if you owned early to mid game. Now they made early game hard. Right now OD is unplayable

[Aronix]

For all the people sayin "Oh but he has splash damage on his arcane orb now", i suggest you play the hero before voicing your opinion. If you had played him you would have realized that you could get off maybe 4 arcane orbs in a teamfight before you are out of mana. He is useless and will remain so untill they either
A: Revert the changes
B: Remove the manacost of the new ability and reduce the cooldown to 13 seconds

[1MantisPhoenix]

I think the main thing dota is trying to run away from are the heroes that have passives, which involves no activation on the hero, making them EZ Right Click bait material. It's actually good in a sense that it helps ALL PLAYERS - be equal - that they need to scroll through their spells, and thus makes the game equally challenging for all involved in the fights.

[^_Kamomon_^]

I agree. Without the passive OD is so irrelevant, and you have the problem of needing mana to activate the skill, its cooldown and forget to use.

[Aronix]

Don't take my word for it. Look at his winrate since the patch came out. 32.07% Winrate and they think that reducing the cooldown of equilibrium by 2 seconds will change anything. Hilarious.

[Lance]

Originally posted by Nuff-Nuff:

he was uselles in previous patches too so what is the problem?

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