Is it possible for Valve to buy Warcraft 3?

[Devour_Food]

Now with all those TI money, can we expect "original" skin for every heroes from Dota 1
And a beautiful Gem TD just the way God wants it?

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引用自 Dark Ether：

引用自 ん：

the only words of wisdom come from this guy^
i agree
to this day im sad because blizzard refused to make dota2 when icefrog contacted them before contacting valve (because of character design and overall visual feel to the game)
if blizzard made models and valves current dota2 team balanced the game it would be ultimate perfect game. (sorry blizzard you suck at balancing so, so hard, just look at ow)

I believe blizard will agree to it on condition ice frog does not "control" dota 2 , i mean like they decided what patch they gonna released and what update they want, skin or such while they ask ice frog to sit in the desk and do some desk job.

basically ice frog want to fully involved in dota 2 development but blizzard want to be the one who monopolize it, i think because warcrraft 3 from them and dota is a wc3 mod, they deserved to do anything to it without ice frog. So the deal is out.

that was just my 2cent ok, even though it will be amazing if dota 2 use new polished wc3 model.

Well because DotA and Warcraft gameplay wasnt the same - icefrog and other developers he worked with to create DotA truly had unique ideas and new genre was established. Icefrog feels entitled to it because ideas are his (and his teams), while assets were Blizzards. So technically, Blizzard doesnt own the ideas, but characters and lore yes, which is their intelectual property. I do agree if Blizzard agreed back then to make Dota2 it would be like you said, they would ''monopolize'' it.

[BossGalaga]

引用自 ん：

to this day im sad because blizzard refused to make dota2 when icefrog contacted them before contacting valve (because of character design and overall visual feel to the game)
if blizzard made models and valves current dota2 team balanced the game it would be ultimate perfect game. (sorry blizzard you suck at balancing so, so hard, just look at ow)

Ehh, I think Blizzard Dota would have been more cartoony, more like LoL aesthetic and less like the awesomeness it is today.

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引用自 BossGalaga：

引用自 ん：

to this day im sad because blizzard refused to make dota2 when icefrog contacted them before contacting valve (because of character design and overall visual feel to the game)
if blizzard made models and valves current dota2 team balanced the game it would be ultimate perfect game. (sorry blizzard you suck at balancing so, so hard, just look at ow)

Ehh, I think Blizzard Dota would have been more cartoony, more like LoL aesthetic and less like the awesomeness it is today.

Well, all dota2 chacter design is is discount versions of warcraft characters (which do look better, just compare sylvana and drow, drow loses every time in design)

[Lixire]

引用自 ん：

引用自 ★Sinon★ <3：

I'm not really surprised that they didn't let this it happen, They were riding on the hype train of DotA to promote sales of Warcraft 3 and wanted to suck it until the end and "MOBA' genre didn't really exist back then.
And yeah, The balance of OW went into s-h-i-t especially after Season 10 with Brigitte. I still remember that I played the game every single day and climbed from Mid Silver to Masters...

Im sad Blizz made miscalculation about how popular mobas will be and then jumping on the bandwagon with Heroes of the storm (a game I would never play).
Despite popular opinion, Dota2 is one of the best balanced games and balancing system Ive seen. Their changes come down to making a value go up or down by 0.01%, tweaking small details, careful about random buff or nerf, follow the pro scene and balance around it (because there heroes are mostly played as itended and players know how to build what and counter what)...while OW literally hammers down a character because 100 people on blizzard forum said its OP (even when character isnt OP). They listen and try to please community way too much and its at harm of the game itself.
But visually...I love every lore and every character design of Blizzard. Their concept arts, their dedicated teams to each game, voice acting, every game has established itself and people care about it. So I guess each company shines at something.

I used to play HotS before moving to LoL as the game had a promotional skin to Overwatch (Officer D.Va) but Blizzard screwed up with this game so badly and I'm not sure if the game is considered as a MOBA or no as it's already removed even the basic aspect of itemztion. I legit feel bad for the HotS players that had to deal with us (OW players who came to get the skin)

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引用自 ★Sinon★ <3：

引用自 ん：

Im sad Blizz made miscalculation about how popular mobas will be and then jumping on the bandwagon with Heroes of the storm (a game I would never play).
Despite popular opinion, Dota2 is one of the best balanced games and balancing system Ive seen. Their changes come down to making a value go up or down by 0.01%, tweaking small details, careful about random buff or nerf, follow the pro scene and balance around it (because there heroes are mostly played as itended and players know how to build what and counter what)...while OW literally hammers down a character because 100 people on blizzard forum said its OP (even when character isnt OP). They listen and try to please community way too much and its at harm of the game itself.
But visually...I love every lore and every character design of Blizzard. Their concept arts, their dedicated teams to each game, voice acting, every game has established itself and people care about it. So I guess each company shines at something.

I used to play HotS before moving to LoL as the game had a promotional skin to Overwatch (Officer D.Va) but Blizzard screwed up with this game so badly and I'm not sure if the game is considered as a MOBA or no as it's already removed even the basic aspect of itemztion. I legit feel bad for the HotS players that had to deal with us (OW players who came to get the skin)

Oh, I didnt even know about those things and promotions. Sounds like a cheap way to get people to play it but it caused more bad than good.

[BossGalaga]

引用自 ん：

Oh, I didnt even know about those things and promotions. Sounds like a cheap way to get people to play it but it caused more bad than good.

It sucked. It created a lot of animosity between Overwatch and HoTS/OW players because these OW players were throwing/feeding like crazy, just straight up facetanking towers, dying, respawning then going straight back to facetank a tower again because some of those cross-game quests only required players to play a certain number of games, not win them.

[joj0.st4r]

a new player in hots will play against other new players the matchmaking is more based on the number of games played than any form of scoring or underlaying hidden numbers

so it was never a problem/more of a good idea to get ppl involved in their other games

of course greed was the key motivation here
but so was to provide a fun place to make ppl want to spend money in a free to play game

[BossGalaga]

引用自 joj0.st4r：

a new player in hots will play against other new players the matchmaking is more based on the number of games played than any form of scoring or underlaying hidden numbers

Sure, in theory...but that's not how it went down, hence why the HoTS forums were full of complaints of OW players intentionally griefing, feeding and throwing to end games as quickly as possible so they could get their participation skin.

[joj0.st4r]

ppl who complain tend to take up alot of space
just look at this forum

they could not even if they wanted to ruin any form of games other than level 1-10 games if they wanted to
and alot of other new players on moba games tend to be terrible and die over and over to towers and so on
so who could tell if it was intentional or not

it was more an outrage from the hots community that hots was being filled up with characters from overwatch
instead of the devs putting out fanfavs from the diablo/warcraft games

[BossGalaga]

引用自 joj0.st4r：

ppl who complain tend to take up alot of space
just look at this forum

they could not even if they wanted to ruin any form of games other than level 1-10 games if they wanted to
and alot of other new players on moba games tend to be terrible and die over and over to towers and so on
so who could tell if it was intentional or not

it was more an outrage from the hots community that hots was being filled up with characters from overwatch
instead of the devs putting out fanfavs from the diablo/warcraft games

I remember when that event happened because I was playing HoTS at the time and I was like level 200+ or something. I could tell the difference between a new player genuinely trying and people who were just feeding to end games quickly so they could get their "Play X games" quest finished for their free OW skins. A lot of these people literally said in-game, "I don't care, just here for the skin" and kept feeding so the way it was "supposed" to happen, is not how it actually happened.

[AskBrother! 大麻]

arent dota2 models just polished dota1 models? what are u talking about

https://imgur.com/a/8TAhH#vS3Nmv7

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[LordQuindecim]

引用自 BossGalaga：

引用自 MelkiHassa：

Is it possible for Valve to buy Warcraft 3?

Now with all those TI money, can we expect "original" skin for every heroes from Dota 1
And a beautiful Gem TD just the way God wants it?

Why would Blizzard sell the rights to their #1 franchise?

This is a question that answer your question. No need for explanation.

[Devour_Food]

引用自 Quindecim：

引用自 BossGalaga：

Why would Blizzard sell the rights to their #1 franchise?

This is a question that answer your question. No need for explanation.

Wow this #1 franchise makes 6 million dollars for Blizzard, while dota 2 makes at least 75 million from TI alone. Moreover now, it doesn't seem to generates millions anymore.
Smart kid, this is a bargain don't you think?

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引用自 MelkiHassa：

引用自 Quindecim：

This is a question that answer your question. No need for explanation.

Wow this #1 franchise makes 6 million dollars for Blizzard, while dota 2 makes at least 75 million from TI alone. Moreover now, it doesn't seem to generates millions anymore.
Smart kid, this is a bargain don't you think?

Info from 2017
"Blizzard has managed to maintain healthy subscriber numbers during the game's more than 12 years of existence. At its best, it held North of 12 million paying customers, equating to roughly $180 million per month in subscription revenue, or $2.15 billion per year.

Read more at https://www.gamerevolution.com/features/13510-world-of-warcraft-leads-industry-with-nearly-10-billion-in-revenue#pBc7uStidAsqCrx1.99"


In comparison to Dota2 2017

https://www.statista.com/statistics/807617/dota-2-revenue/

"In 2017, the free-to-play MOBA game DOTA 2 generated 406 million U.S. dollars in revenue, up from 260 million a year earlier."


You might wanna check your facts before typing nonsense.