Overwatch penalty

[Julian Peter Haas]

My behaviour score is 10k most of the time. But sometimes it drops because of unfair reports. I even sometimes get an overwatch penalty. I love dota/dota2 and im playing it since over 15 years and also was in the beta of dota2. But i really dislike how this system plays out. Most of the time it seems to occur when im matched with a group of 3/4 people. They refuse to communicate (they are in discord most likely) and don't give me the chance to play with them. Often when they wanna fight they don't let me know and when i fight they just stay back. I don't know what to do in these kind of games. I can farm in the jungle and get reported for afk-farming. I can fight and be reported for feeding. The only thing i could possibly do is run bainlessly behind me team and wait for fights.

I don't see many solutions to this. But at least there could be an option to avoid 3 and 4 man stacks in your own team in non ranked. I'm totally fine with 2 people laning togetehr. But 3 or 4 man stacks often believe they are the team and ignore the rest of the team.

You could argue that i could play ranked with strict solo queue. But what if i want to try new heroes? Try new itembuilds? In ranked i would just get reported for that.

[Kagami]

Then maybe switching game not such a bad idea after 15 years of playing this game. Its that simple in my opinion.

[Julian Peter Haas]

I love this game. I shall abandon my most favourite game because there is no mechanic to avoid 3 and 4 man stacks?

[mie aceh...]

Originally posted by Mid Player :):

My behaviour score is 10k most of the time. But sometimes it drops because of unfair reports. I even sometimes get an overwatch penalty. I love dota/dota2 and im playing it since over 15 years and also was in the beta of dota2. But i really dislike how this system plays out. Most of the time it seems to occur when im matched with a group of 3/4 people. They refuse to communicate (they are in discord most likely) and don't give me the chance to play with them. Often when they wanna fight they don't let me know and when i fight they just stay back. I don't know what to do in these kind of games. I can farm in the jungle and get reported for afk-farming. I can fight and be reported for feeding. The only thing i could possibly do is run bainlessly behind me team and wait for fights.

I don't see many solutions to this. But at least there could be an option to avoid 3 and 4 man stacks in your own team in non ranked. I'm totally fine with 2 people laning togetehr. But 3 or 4 man stacks often believe they are the team and ignore the rest of the team.

You could argue that i could play ranked with strict solo queue. But what if i want to try new heroes? Try new itembuilds? In ranked i would just get reported for that.

yeah bro get reported for something we didnt do is really sucks...

[Watch my cores feed]

Originally posted by Mid Player :):

I love this game. I shall abandon my most favourite game because there is no mechanic to avoid 3 and 4 man stacks?

You can solo match making can't you? Secondly, Kagami is a troll and probably paid by valve to be super biased to the game so just ignore. Thirdly, its really only worth playing with mates, 3 to 4 stacks. 5 stacks hard to find games unless you scrim.

[Julian Peter Haas]

How do use solo matchmaking in unranked games?

[Kagami]

Originally posted by Mid Player :):

I love this game. I shall abandon my most favourite game because there is no mechanic to avoid 3 and 4 man stacks?

I mean after 15 years. I don’t see why not.

[Julian Peter Haas]

I just told you why. I love this game. I won't reply to any further of your comments. u may have the last word, because i'm not feeding trolls.

Originally posted by Kagami:

Originally posted by Mid Player :):

I love this game. I shall abandon my most favourite game because there is no mechanic to avoid 3 and 4 man stacks?

I mean after 15 years. I don’t see why not.

[Kagami]

Originally posted by Mid Player :):

I just told you why. I love this game. I won't reply to any further of your comments. u may have the last word, because i'm not feeding trolls.

Originally posted by Kagami:

I mean after 15 years. I don’t see why not.

Suggesting an alternate game or retire is not trolling.

[no154370]

Originally posted by Mid Player :):

My behaviour score is 10k most of the time. But sometimes it drops because of unfair reports. I even sometimes get an overwatch penalty. I love dota/dota2 and im playing it since over 15 years and also was in the beta of dota2. But i really dislike how this system plays out. Most of the time it seems to occur when im matched with a group of 3/4 people. They refuse to communicate (they are in discord most likely) and don't give me the chance to play with them. Often when they wanna fight they don't let me know and when i fight they just stay back. I don't know what to do in these kind of games. I can farm in the jungle and get reported for afk-farming. I can fight and be reported for feeding. The only thing i could possibly do is run bainlessly behind me team and wait for fights.

I don't see many solutions to this. But at least there could be an option to avoid 3 and 4 man stacks in your own team in non ranked. I'm totally fine with 2 people laning togetehr. But 3 or 4 man stacks often believe they are the team and ignore the rest of the team.

You could argue that i could play ranked with strict solo queue. But what if i want to try new heroes? Try new itembuilds? In ranked i would just get reported for that.

your story looks nice but there are mistakes which i'm going to point out

1) dota 2 is released fully in 2013 not 2007

so how can it be that you play dota 2 for 15 years.

also, the beta release of dota 2 is in 2011 which is 11 years ago.

the game was developed in 2009.

2) there is the mini map for you to see your team mates movement.

you claim that they never notify you about Team Fights, but all MOBA Games got mini map where you can take a look and check your Team mates position.........etc.

in this case, you gave an invalid reason OP since it is plainly obvious you never bother to utilize the Mini Map in Dota 2 at all.

3) team mates will ping on mini map

also, if your Team Mates uses ping on mini map and yet you failed to take note at all, then it is your fault.

4) team mates use mic to communicate

if your Team Mates are using mic as a form of communication to form strategy, you go mute everyone's mic including your team mates, then it is your own fault.

5) Discord is a 3rd party program, people needs to alt+tab out in order to use it

you OP stated that all your dota 2 matches Team Mates communicate using Discord program.

this is a complete 100% invalid reason.

people needs to Alt+Tab out of Dota 2 in order to use Discord then Alt+Tab back in to the game.

this takes secs to mins and there is a rule in dota 2 that states "player A is access with an abandon due to not gaining EXP for 5 mins".

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all in all, you are pushing the blame to others when in actual fact, you are the one at fault.

there are multiple ways to communicate with your team mates in the game yet you ignore all of it COMPLETELY.

[Julian Peter Haas]

1) Pls look up the history f dota.
2) What you suggest is always follow th team. Thi sis not valid depending on the position. It's not useful for me to know that my team is invading the enemy jungle or smoking when i have no time to join them because they don't inform me. And also i always know where my team is.
3) most of the time these stacks of 3 or 4 people dont bother to ping because they are in a voicechat like discord.
4) I'm not listening to insults.
5) i never said all teammates. I said some in some matches. And i highly doubt discord gets deactivated when u play dota.

all in all: i communicate a lot. i use the voicechat, call misses, i inform them that i will join any smokes and pushes if they let me know.

[K♤rm♥]

Es necesario dar mi opinión, en un caso de Overwacth el denunciado tiene 2 posibilidades: penalización correcta e incorrecta, y todo dependerá de la perspectiva del jugador a la hora de juzgar. En teoría todos debemos aceptar esa responsabilidad, pero lastimosamente no todos lo toman enserio. Para entrar un poquito a mi mundo gays, antes de montar este show de casos de Overwatch debieron capacitar a las personas que juegan dota 2,
-comenzando con ejemplos y seleccionando resultados- me refiero a las pruebas, despues de estar realmente convencido que este sistema funcionara, pues lo que vas a querer es formar un grupo de personas dedicadas y capaces de SOLUCIONAR los problemas de los jugadores denunciados. A ESTA ALTURA DIME QUIEN NO quería ser parte de algo como esto, en busca de una comunidad exitosa. El resultado seria increíble, en cada una de las partidas de dota2.
Me divierto mucho jugando dota 2, gane o pierda trato de juzgar las cosas de la mejor manera. haciendome cargo de la situación ya previsto. :3

[Zagryzaec]

Originally posted by Mid Player :):

My behaviour score is 10k most of the time. But sometimes it drops because of unfair reports. I even sometimes get an overwatch penalty. I love dota/dota2 and im playing it since over 15 years and also was in the beta of dota2. But i really dislike how this system plays out. Most of the time it seems to occur when im matched with a group of 3/4 people. They refuse to communicate (they are in discord most likely) and don't give me the chance to play with them. Often when they wanna fight they don't let me know and when i fight they just stay back. I don't know what to do in these kind of games. I can farm in the jungle and get reported for afk-farming. I can fight and be reported for feeding. The only thing i could possibly do is run bainlessly behind me team and wait for fights.

I don't see many solutions to this. But at least there could be an option to avoid 3 and 4 man stacks in your own team in non ranked. I'm totally fine with 2 people laning togetehr. But 3 or 4 man stacks often believe they are the team and ignore the rest of the team.

You could argue that i could play ranked with strict solo queue. But what if i want to try new heroes? Try new itembuilds? In ranked i would just get reported for that.

Solution is to play role ranked. It's stupid but it works, even if you may lose some mmr. You won't go much lower than your natural mmr.

[Julian Peter Haas]

I never played ranked beside the 10? games u need to calibrate. In ranked everybody takes everything so serious. It's sad that there is no solution to this in unranked.

[Zagryzaec]

It was available before but valve decided to break this because they prioritize party players over single players.

[no154370]

Originally posted by Mid Player :):

1) Pls look up the history f dota.
2) What you suggest is always follow th team. Thi sis not valid depending on the position. It's not useful for me to know that my team is invading the enemy jungle or smoking when i have no time to join them because they don't inform me. And also i always know where my team is.
3) most of the time these stacks of 3 or 4 people dont bother to ping because they are in a voicechat like discord.
4) I'm not listening to insults.
5) i never said all teammates. I said some in some matches. And i highly doubt discord gets deactivated when u play dota.

all in all: i communicate a lot. i use the voicechat, call misses, i inform them that i will join any smokes and pushes if they let me know.

i look up is the history of dota 2.

and your original post is talking about Dota 2.

you never talk about Dota 1 from Warcraft 3 at all.

you stated in your original post that you played Dota 2 for 15 years which is wrong.

and you also even stated that you play the Open Beta Release of Dota 2.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dota_2

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1) Development of Dota 2 began in 2009

2) It was released for Microsoft Windows, OS X, and Linux via the digital distribution platform Steam in July 2013, following a Windows-only open beta phase that began two years prior

the 2nd sentence, the Open Beta for dota 2 occurs in 2011 since it is stated it happens 2 years before the full released in july 2013.

so how can it be that you play dota 2 for 15 years when Dota 2 never existed before 2009.

right now it is the year 2022.

15 years ago, it is 2007, dota 2 isn't out nor developed at all.