is valve actually doing something real against smurf problem..??

[mortacci]

I really wonder if valve is even trying to do something against smurf problem that is grow every day more, just now finish a game with an enemy team with 4 player using a secondary account in ranked game...i can understand 1,2 maybe 1 for each team, but when you have 4 just in 1 team is because valve is doing notihng for the problem i think.
By the way i think is also really stupid to can't use forum for list id account of possible smurf and cheater?
by the way many time is so easy to discover smurf account that look impossible valve are not able to arginate the problem.

[UpInTheAssOfTimo]

it is what it is, sucks ass man. F those people who smurf in lower ranks, makes the game sh! tty to play

[RealCraigS]

Fact: Several content creators have smurf accounts. (Don't ask, you know who they are.)
Fact: Several professional players also have smurf accounts. (You also know who they are.)
Fact: To date it seems that players who aren't content creators and have smurf accounts are the ones who are being banned.
Question: Why are these content creators allowed to continue having smurf accounts? Or better yet why has Valve continued to allow these players to ruin the game for legitimate players?

[Hotklou]

Originally posted by 糧安委:

Fact: Several content creators have smurf accounts. (Don't ask, you know who they are.)
Fact: Several professional players also have smurf accounts. (You also know who they are.)
Fact: To date it seems that players who aren't content creators and have smurf accounts are the ones who are being banned.
Question: Why are these content creators allowed to continue having smurf accounts? Or better yet why has Valve continued to allow these players to ruin the game for legitimate players?

Why? Money, I'd think. Those few people help the game too much, such as by advertising and promoting it, for them to get into trouble as easily.

[Zagryzaec]

Originally posted by Mortacci:

I really wonder if valve is even trying to do something against smurf problem that is grow every day more, just now finish a game with an enemy team with 4 player using a secondary account in ranked game...i can understand 1,2 maybe 1 for each team, but when you have 4 just in 1 team is because valve is doing notihng for the problem i think.
By the way i think is also really stupid to can't use forum for list id account of possible smurf and cheater?
by the way many time is so easy to discover smurf account that look impossible valve are not able to arginate the problem.

They literally ban smurfs.

[Absche]

More smurfs after the anti-smurf measures taken? Something wrong here, right?
Wrong measures or wrong perception.

Smurfing is an inherent feature that keeps players with the game beyond their level-out. Real measures would have such an impact on the game that they don‘t go that way. Neither the developers nor the players want such changes.

[mortacci]

Originally posted by 糧安委:

Fact: Several content creators have smurf accounts. (Don't ask, you know who they are.)
Fact: Several professional players also have smurf accounts. (You also know who they are.)
Fact: To date it seems that players who aren't content creators and have smurf accounts are the ones who are being banned.
Question: Why are these content creators allowed to continue having smurf accounts? Or better yet why has Valve continued to allow these players to ruin the game for legitimate players?

that is right to, but since there are lot of low rank player thatactually pay for dota plus or buy compendium and other stuff and thry lot of them are more valuable than a creator some time, maybe to start to act against that nearly impossible situation will be something good, i repeat, get 1 smurf some time is ok, but when you atart to get 4 out of 5 in a single team in a game....is little bit to much for don't be able trecognise them and ban.

[Hotklou]

Originally posted by Mortacci:

Originally posted by Hotklou:

Yes, unfortunately the only solution to the problem of losing, and perhaps in this case more specifically losing to smurfs, is to improve your skill. Practice makes perfect. Reading or watching some guides or tips also couldn't hurt.

that is 1 of the most useless stuff a person can write down, if you didn't realize it there are lv for a reason, to give same chance to everyone to can make practice and make a progression, if you put a rookie to play against a pro he will learn just little few stuff and loose the 100% of the time, resulting not in a progression but in a frustration that will end in change game in that case, in sport work in the same way...you know different lv for have a fair play, is not a destruction derby...so write stuff like practice more for be better than the smurf is something really stupid to say, at that point why don't get away rank and put every player in the same rank....lol

I'm not saying smurfs aren't an issue. I'm saying that the way you combat smurfs is to overcome them in terms of skill. Sure you will still experience losses, but by bettering yourself at least you'll know that you did all you could.

[mortacci]

Originally posted by Hotklou:

Originally posted by Mortacci:

that is 1 of the most useless stuff a person can write down, if you didn't realize it there are lv for a reason, to give same chance to everyone to can make practice and make a progression, if you put a rookie to play against a pro he will learn just little few stuff and loose the 100% of the time, resulting not in a progression but in a frustration that will end in change game in that case, in sport work in the same way...you know different lv for have a fair play, is not a destruction derby...so write stuff like practice more for be better than the smurf is something really stupid to say, at that point why don't get away rank and put every player in the same rank....lol

I'm not saying smurfs aren't an issue. I'm saying that the way you combat smurfs is to overcome them in terms of skill. Sure you will still experience losses, but by bettering yourself at least you'll know that you did all you could.

man every game i play i try to win, idon't play for loose ok, so again what you say have no sense, i repeat there is a reason for separate different rank, and the reason is really easy to undertsnad, so say practice more is something useless, smurfing is forbidden from valve rules? yes, is consodered like use a cheat, and is for a reason, so i really legittimate to ask why look's like valve is doing nothing concrete about that big problem, nbecause is a big problem, since there are many player stacked in lower rank just cause of that, since once you loose rank is nearly impossible to get it back for really bad ranked sistem, so at least to don't find cheaters (because it that what they are) every single game will be something really ggod

[[ﻮΗc]StarLight]

Nah they are not

[Kagami]

Originally posted by 糧安委:

Fact: Several content creators have smurf accounts. (Don't ask, you know who they are.)
Fact: Several professional players also have smurf accounts. (You also know who they are.)
Fact: To date it seems that players who aren't content creators and have smurf accounts are the ones who are being banned.
Question: Why are these content creators allowed to continue having smurf accounts? Or better yet why has Valve continued to allow these players to ruin the game for legitimate players?

Fact : smurfing is allowed in dota 2 for the pass 8 years and just got bannable since 1 year ago.
Fact : TI winner / streamer (content creator) like aui 2000 or mason have their smurf account banned already.
Question : what pvp multiplayer online game as big as dota that doesn't have smurf in their game ? Last time i check league still have smurf, Even valorant have smurf. Are those gaming company allow those players to ruin game for legitimate players ?? because if they do that means Valve is just the same like all others gaming company.

[MVP_lCE™]

Originally posted by Kagami:

Originally posted by 糧安委:

Fact: Several content creators have smurf accounts. (Don't ask, you know who they are.)
Fact: Several professional players also have smurf accounts. (You also know who they are.)
Fact: To date it seems that players who aren't content creators and have smurf accounts are the ones who are being banned.
Question: Why are these content creators allowed to continue having smurf accounts? Or better yet why has Valve continued to allow these players to ruin the game for legitimate players?

Fact : smurfing is allowed in dota 2 for the pass 8 years and just got bannable since 1 year ago.
Fact : TI winner / streamer (content creator) like aui 2000 or mason have their smurf account banned already.
Question : what pvp multiplayer online game as big as dota that doesn't have smurf in their game ? Last time i check league still have smurf, Even valorant have smurf. Are those gaming company allow those players to ruin game for legitimate players ?? because if they do that means Valve is just the same like all others gaming company.

The conclusion is, if anyone feels another company or developer is better than Valve, then go play another game. Hahahaha.

[Kagami]

Originally posted by coUp dE gRâce :

Originally posted by Kagami:

Fact : smurfing is allowed in dota 2 for the pass 8 years and just got bannable since 1 year ago.
Fact : TI winner / streamer (content creator) like aui 2000 or mason have their smurf account banned already.
Question : what pvp multiplayer online game as big as dota that doesn't have smurf in their game ? Last time i check league still have smurf, Even valorant have smurf. Are those gaming company allow those players to ruin game for legitimate players ?? because if they do that means Valve is just the same like all others gaming company.

The conclusion is, if anyone feels another company or developer is better than Valve, then go play another game. Hahahaha.

I doubt there are one game that solve the smurf problem until today.

[mortacci]

Originally posted by Kagami:

Originally posted by 糧安委:

Fact: Several content creators have smurf accounts. (Don't ask, you know who they are.)
Fact: Several professional players also have smurf accounts. (You also know who they are.)
Fact: To date it seems that players who aren't content creators and have smurf accounts are the ones who are being banned.
Question: Why are these content creators allowed to continue having smurf accounts? Or better yet why has Valve continued to allow these players to ruin the game for legitimate players?

Fact : smurfing is allowed in dota 2 for the pass 8 years and just got bannable since 1 year ago.
Fact : TI winner / streamer (content creator) like aui 2000 or mason have their smurf account banned already.
Question : what pvp multiplayer online game as big as dota that doesn't have smurf in their game ? Last time i check league still have smurf, Even valorant have smurf. Are those gaming company allow those players to ruin game for legitimate players ?? because if they do that means Valve is just the same like all others gaming company.

the incredible fact about dota is that since they claimed ufficially that smurfing is forbidden and considered like cheating , the number of smurf increrased dramaticaly, i'm sure they ban some player because it happen that you find on forum player that ask "why i got banned for doing nothing", so they do something, but still to less at the moment, and is unbelievable since most of smurf accouts are so easy to discover.

[mortacci]

Originally posted by Kagami:

Originally posted by coUp dE gRâce :

The conclusion is, if anyone feels another company or developer is better than Valve, then go play another game. Hahahaha.

I doubt there are one game that solve the smurf problem until today.

to solve it totally maybe no 1, but many games done massive ban already in the past for that problem, in dota i think last massive ban been already few years ago...maybe

[Kagami]

Originally posted by Mortacci:

Originally posted by Kagami:

I doubt there are one game that solve the smurf problem until today.

to solve it totally maybe no 1, but many games done massive ban already in the past for that problem, in dota i think last massive ban been already few years ago...maybe

Few years ago smurfing is not bannable. Check the rules again. Its bannable since 2021.

Thats exactly my point. Do you expect valve can suddenly doing massive ban in just one year since the rules applied when other game have many years to solve and still not solveable.