New Tech...

[Yetimhane Kundakçısı]

new tech sucks. a suicide attack that doesn't kill, a landmine that doesn't scare, and a trap that doesn't paralyze. it was a hero who mostly stayed behind defence and disturbed the enemies. now i don't understand the logic of turning it into a hero who gets a death for dying?? – sometimes even he is suspicious – techies were an unmatched hero only to their pro. now the pleasure of using it has been destroyed by the changes. tech needs to go back to how it was and go back to its good old days. For a hero whose abilities haven't changed since dota 1, such a 'hard' change is meaningless. when i entered the game, my eyes were looking for the first tech. I'm just sad now. tech is too special for some users. you shouldn't spoil this feeling.

[Zagryzaec]

Suicide attack does kill - how many times your enemies killed you after using it?

[Yetimhane Kundakçısı]

Originally posted by Zagryzaec:

Suicide attack does kill - how many times your enemies killed you after using it?

1- Activate that damn 2nd skill that is unclear.
2- Throw a harmless bomb that runs around like a child.
3- Make a suicide attack.
4- plant a mine.

reduce the enemy's life to less than half and die in return...

In this state, techies will not be able to go further than a suicide hero for 1 death. they almost made a kamikaze hero.

[Zagryzaec]

Well disarm wont allow them to kill you with rightclick, so if you DO play techies properly you dont have to die.

The problem is - techies players just too used to get everything for free with no brain activity. So now when they cant just have it and have to play they start crying.

Centaur - my 60% winrate char do the same - charge into center of enemies, spend his hp to deal damage and take away nukes, disable enemies and possibly dies leaving enemies on half hp with no mana and skills so my team can finish them off.

You can have glimmer to survive, right? You can actually learn to aim your skill, right? So your mine is doing damage and disable and not running around harmlessly? Right? You can start to learn play the character that could be no longer broken.

[Not Finland]

Originally posted by Zagryzaec:

Well disarm wont allow them to kill you with rightclick, so if you DO play techies properly you dont have to die.

The problem is - techies players just too used to get everything for free with no brain activity. So now when they cant just have it and have to play they start crying.

Centaur - my 60% winrate char do the same - charge into center of enemies, spend his hp to deal damage and take away nukes, disable enemies and possibly dies leaving enemies on half hp with no mana and skills so my team can finish them off.

You can have glimmer to survive, right? You can actually learn to aim your skill, right? So your mine is doing damage and disable and not running around harmlessly? Right? You can start to learn play the character that could be no longer broken.

Pro players have 40% winrate on techies, after this patch, I guess they just do not know how to play this game.

[Zagryzaec]

of course they have - because as i said already - techies existed to troll and grief both teams, not to win - thats why he desperately needed for rework.

Maybe techies players will stop bieng treated as the scums of the community now and will stop getting guaranteed eventual permaban.

Even when i just play techies normally due to cavern crawl i immidiately accomulated tons of reports just for pick.

[Not Finland]

Originally posted by Zagryzaec:

of course they have - because as i said already - techies existed to troll and grief both teams, not to win - thats why he desperately needed for rework.

Maybe techies players will stop bieng treated as the scums of the community now and will stop getting guaranteed eventual permaban.

Even when i just play techies normally due to cavern crawl i immidiately accomulated tons of reports just for pick.

You do not get me, Techies after this rework sucks, even people with more than 7000 mmr can not play him effectivly.

[Zagryzaec]

they couldnt before either. techies is good vs low tier desorganised teams. its more useless as skill grows.

[Not Finland]

Originally posted by Zagryzaec:

they couldnt before either. techies is good vs low tier desorganised teams. its more useless as skill grows.

The thing is, they could

[Paulo Ramos]

Just make shard and agh base kit. It is a nice buff because he is unplayable without them. And before level 5/R he is lacking damage. Butf his Q damage on level 1 and 2 but hist last Q level ramains the same.

[Ulthwé]

Techies looks like a proper support to me now!

[Zagryzaec]

Originally posted by Not Finland:

Originally posted by Zagryzaec:

they couldnt before either. techies is good vs low tier desorganised teams. its more useless as skill grows.

The thing is, they could

Dont see them picked on pro matches all the time

[Fistraiser]

techies skill set is quite good.however we still have the issue where bkb counter nearly everything but bkb piercing heros.this why bane and beastmaster had such high pick rates.
techeis only issue currently is he wont scale into late game because bkbs.
i feel though this is an issue that affects more than just techies right now.
We need a bkb rework.My suggestion would be to give bkb 5 charges.dont have a scaling duration.just have it set at i dunno lets say 6 seconds duration.This counters the refresher bs with bk without actually hurting refresher more./
And you can make a replenish bkb charge option in shop or a charge replenish every 5 minutes.keep bkb cooldown the same obviously.but seriously this idea would make the meta way more diverse.

[Buryat]

Redo it back Techeis