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if 1 is against it then you should not go jungle
and since quiet a lot of people dont like having a jungler its quiet possible you got reported for it
But jungling is not forbidden in Dota 2. Hence if I want to jungle I can freely jungle. How can players report me for playing this game as I want to play but they want me to play? If players want me to pick e.g. dazzle and buy glimmer cape instead of hand of midas they must pay me money $ becausu it will be job not game.
And how can reports be instatly approved by the system without any evidence base?
its not about how others want you to play, its about how the game is designed in the first place.
dota itself doesnt have a "official" jungler role like league of legends if i remember right.
also only very few heros can lane solo really good and having a jungler means that somebody must solo a sidelane - so if your team dont have the needed solo laner you are basicly the one who is responsible for 1 lane lost almost for sure.
No i was punished instatly after the last game. No overwatch only big ammount of unjust reports per hour.
I dont agree that the game is designed without jungler role. Official roles are: two supports, off laner, mid laner and safe laner. Thus only 3 of 5 players are leashed to specific lane. Moreover even this 3 player actually stay at their lanes maximum till 10 minute of match. As a ressult jungler role officially is not forbidden and is not approved. So reports can not be considered just for earning gold in neutral camps.
Finally, yes, onlu few heroes can feel comfortable vs two enemies. But this is not my fault that other players have challenges! They die, they are poor, they can not do anything worthy in match not me, I follow my role and jungle play style. So I beleive they are more deserved to be reported.
also if your playstyle like this then this game is not for you
go play LoL instead
there jungle role there
I am not hired by my offlane or safe lane players. I play this game to win and get entertainment. Or if I could help on lane in exchange for automatically +30 mmr despite match results I would. But this game is about dealing impact by myself so I do it by earning gold in neutral camps.
So why do I receive instantly approved reports just for legal playing? Or where is that terms of user agreement which states that "hard support and soft support roles in ranked queue are not allowed to bye hand of midas item"?
the pos 4 and 5 are also "leashed" to their respective lanes, BUT have more tasks at the same time - like warding, stacking, safe tp, ganks and so on. thats what forces them to move earlier in the game then cores.
the jungler role is not forbidden, because its simply doesnt exist, its the developer who sets the rules and the meta -it is not in favor of junglers for good reasons.
also you saying its not your problem if your team has challanges facing a 1v2 lane, mabye not your problem (yet) but its your fault in that case - so its normal the jungler gets blamed first, it doesnt matter how good your farm is. if you dont go win litterly 1v5 after letting your team down for over 10min then the reports are probably deserved.
imagine you play csgo and your teammates say we like pistols so we play pistol only all game or something like that - im sure you also would raise questions
im sure overwatch doesnt punish you when you buy midas on dazzle or ogre and im also sure that if youwere send to lp right after a game - then most likely its the punishment for another report that you got from games ealier.
i sometimes got an lp punishment, while i was playing a match
Don't think that's true. I've gone jungle in plenty of recent ranked games and not gotten punished for it. The thing is though, I know what offlaners are capable of soloing. Even when I have an offlaner who "can't", I'll farm the enemy jungle when the creepwave is close to our tower (to the extent of the two pull camps and occasionally a third) and let the offlane have all the xp from the lane. I'm also always watching the map, looking for when to gank and when to jungle. I usually pick pudge, mirana, or any hero that doesn't "need" a lot of farm but can still clear a camp relatively quickly so I'm not committed to taking a camp when the lane is struggling. I usually go jungle just to rush one early-game item like force staff, urn, or veil. In between jungling, I help out offlane or safelane by pulling or helping them get kills. From there I begin ganking mid, I finish jungling generally around min 7-8.
what you described is a pos4 that uses some of its time and mana on jungle creeps.
the op as i understand sees himself as a core jungler, meaning no pulling, no stacking - and the farm is in that case not occasional but mandatory
Maybe jungle strategy is not the best. Maybe my team blame me or hate me. I always talked to my team and discuss in-match problems unless got muted. But it is no a case of system punishement. Each player has its own mindset and play style. I am totally sure that 1k player in 4k team gets 4 reports while 4k player in 8k team also gets 4 report. This is not about noob tell noob that he is noob! This is about that different plays style results in ban. It defenitely should not - only in obvious loose but never in ban. Even if jungle is so terrible play style I will just have 1 mmr as the worst player of the world but never I should be banned.
As you can check on the official website e.g. Natures prophet has excelent jungler abilities {LINK REMOVED}(https://www.dota2.com/hero/nature'sprophet?l=english). So yes, there is an official role called jungler. It is not matchmaking queue role but it is play style role. What about pos 4 and pos 5 are leashed to lanes? Nowhere on official resources this thesis is not stated. Also in game glossary states that positions are farming priorities in case of common creeps conflicts; supports are heroes who can not deal enough damages to enemies in fights thus help cores to do it. That is!
Unfortunately I always play the same style - jungling. So it brought me 19 commends,0 abbadons, 9 gameplay reports and < 3 communication abuses in last 20 games plus ban for 4 hours, 5 low priority games, mute and -1000 behaviour score.
as i already told you, in the end its about the meta. there was a time where heros like enigma and chen went almost only jungle for like 5 min every game, but the developer decided (with help from community) that it would be better to change that.
mabye some day we get a jungle meta again and your teammates will agree on having a jungler a lot more, but until then you are in the wrong. the devs make the rules, you cant expect your team to always have a solo laner ready - it wouldnt be fair either
Great job! But I think it is called roaming. Anyway I would commend you and never report you if we were in one team. Because you try to win.
Yes. Only one thing: if I play support I also stack, place wards and never steal creeps from others.