Make hoodwink great again

[Afterlife]

47,6% винрейт, это ли не дно? за что так с ней? Были стабильные 50%, никто особо ее даже не пикал, зачем резать вхлам все скиллы?

[my wife]

So, i had to google translate this but, yeah, they basically destroyed the hero, it would have been better if at least the aghanim upgrades did something better than the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ illusion and a boomerang that gives magic and status reduction and does a measly 350 damage.
After you get the level 25 talent with pure damage and spell immunity pierce it's completly useless, what role does that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ability even have? Supporting for a mage carry?
Are they trying to shift hoodwink to full fledge support utility hero?
This is honestly sickening.

They also removed the sight visibility from the ultimate, how are you supposed to snipe a low health target after it escaped and you don't have vision of it? SO ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ STUPID.

[ʍolɟ ǝɥʇ ǝsɹǝʌǝɹ]

So it's more of a skill shot hero now. Winrate will vary more based on individual skill. Fixing it to 50% just averages 40% winners and 60% winners

[Water Ｖａｐｏｒ Merchant]

Hoodwink as a core was always a meme. She fits perfectly into the Pos4 slot with her high utility and unreliable damage output. Giving her two whole new abilities with aghs upgrades seems a little excessive to me, but it improves her late game viability giving her more utilities to throw at enemies while the others are on CD. Stay in the treeline (much easier with the new tower area changes) and just spam spells at enemies. That's where she belongs.

[my wife]

sub 50% winrate, nuff said

[Abra⁧⁧cadabra]

Lol i've had no issues demolishing people as her if I wanted to play a carry role aka pos 3 cause pos 1 or 2 is just straight trolling. Maybe you just suck as her?

[BearOwlProwl]

imagine thinking a hero with below a 50% winrate is justified, people astound me. In a perfect world, every hero would have a 50% win rate, instead Valve takes heroes that are not relatively broken in the slightest and turns them into ♥♥♥♥ cans.

[Dino]

Nah, there's many more heroes that are in need to work compared to hoodwink

[my wife]

Originally posted by BearOwlProwl:

imagine thinking a hero with below a 50% winrate is justified, people astound me. In a perfect world, every hero would have a 50% win rate, instead Valve takes heroes that are not relatively broken in the slightest and turns them into ♥♥♥♥ cans.

Exactly, thanks for your common sense.
People doesn't seem to understand this.

Originally posted by Dino:

Nah, there's many more heroes that are in need to work compared to hoodwink

If they left her as she was, we wouldn't have this conversation but no, instead they nerfed the whole ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ kit, you can't make early kills using the ult anymore, because you don't have vision along the sight anymore, and if they leave into fog of war you can only guess where they went exactly, this basically ♥♥♥♥♥ over Hoodwink mid, which was my lane of choice.
♥♥♥♥ volvo.

[Water Ｖａｐｏｒ Merchant]

Originally posted by Dumb Squirrel IDK Nerfed to ♥♥♥♥:

Originally posted by BearOwlProwl:

imagine thinking a hero with below a 50% winrate is justified, people astound me. In a perfect world, every hero would have a 50% win rate, instead Valve takes heroes that are not relatively broken in the slightest and turns them into ♥♥♥♥ cans.

Exactly, thanks for your common sense.
People doesn't seem to understand this.

Originally posted by Dino:

Nah, there's many more heroes that are in need to work compared to hoodwink

If they left her as she was, we wouldn't have this conversation but no, instead they nerfed the whole ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ kit, you can't make early kills using the ult anymore, because you don't have vision along the sight anymore, and if they leave into fog of war you can only guess where they went exactly, this basically ♥♥♥♥♥ over Hoodwink mid, which was my lane of choice.
♥♥♥♥ volvo.

One word: wards

[my wife]

One word: wards [/quote]

Easy to say, very easy to say, hard to pull off, why?
Because wards are rarely available early game, and you would want them wards when you hit level 6.
If your team doesn't cooperate, as they often don't because they are always russians who doesn't speak english.
What do then?
Just telling me to ward doesn't fix this problem, what you're telling me to do is basically apply a band aid on it, a simple band aid won't fix what valve broke.
I am fine with the damage nerf, that ♥♥♥♥ was insane with the level 25 talent but bro, why remove the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sight vision, that ♥♥♥♥ is needed and had a purpose.

[Dino]

https://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/winning
waaaa my hero is sooooooooo bad, explains why it's above a lot of other heroes :)

[my wife]

Originally posted by Dino:

https://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/winning
waaaa my hero is sooooooooo bad, explains why it's above a lot of other heroes :)

Btw, winrate is not even 47% anymore, it dropped down to 44 in archon, and 43% in divine.

[Water Ｖａｐｏｒ Merchant]

Originally posted by Dumb Squirrel IDK Nerfed to ♥♥♥♥:

Originally posted by Dino:

https://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/winning
waaaa my hero is sooooooooo bad, explains why it's above a lot of other heroes :)

Btw, winrate is not even 47% anymore, it dropped down to 44 in archon, and 43% in divine.

Hoodwink is worse at the role people were using her for, when her role is reestablished in the meta and people start playing and building her for that role, her winrate will go back up, with no further meddling from Valve.

[my wife]

Originally posted by Water Ｖａｐｏｒ Merchant:

Originally posted by Dumb Squirrel IDK Nerfed to ♥♥♥♥:

Btw, winrate is not even 47% anymore, it dropped down to 44 in archon, and 43% in divine.

Hoodwink is worse at the role people were using her for, when her role is reestablished in the meta and people start playing and building her for that role, her winrate will go back up, with no further meddling from Valve.

you people who think this ♥♥♥♥ is ok ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ blow my mind, let me know when volvo does some sudden changes to your hero so much that it changes the way you have played that hero for so many game, how you feel about it.
Till then i stand by what i said till now and i will sure be back to update you on the winrate she has, to see if your barking was right and not just empty words because you didn't like this hero to begin with.

[Last_in_line]

Сыграл на Худвинке 5 игр - все 5 игр проиграл, да собственно даже не в этом дело. Герой потерял своё место в игре что ли. Раньше хоть дамаг с 1-ого скила был. Теперь бегаешь как не в своей тарелке и если пересобраться то во что? Дали невнятный аганим и ещё более бесполезный шард с кд в 50 секунд.
Ещё Дота себя как-то странно ведёт. Я это заметил по добиваниям крипов, денаям, то ли тычка медленней, то ли подлагивает иногда.