How is MvP calculated?

[[GRVTS]Fat Bastard]

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Because I feel like I was nearly worthless in this match, but I got MvP anyway. How is this crap decided? If the 16/3/22 spectre isn't MvP what right do I have to it!?

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Dota MvP system is so broken.

[BruT]

mvp means most valuable player, kills doesnt make u valuable and in your case was the support

i bet MVP is calculated with fantasy points

[BossGalaga]

Originally posted by GRVTSFat Bastard:

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Because I feel like I was nearly worthless in this match, but I got MvP anyway. How is this crap decided? If the 16/3/22 spectre isn't MvP what right do I have to it!?

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Dota MvP system is so broken.

The MVP system isn't "broken." It's simply a novelty, for funsies basically. MVP is only awarded to a player on the winning team. The MVP mentions can be awarded to players on either team, and are a bit more arbitrary than the actual game MVP. The MVP system highly favors actions and impact over raw KDA. So it's very easy for support heroes who constantly spam spells throughout the game to get MVP.

Originally posted by BruT:

i bet MVP is calculated with fantasy points

That's an interesting theory. Perhaps.

[doom007]

Originally posted by BruT:

mvp means most valuable player, kills doesnt make u valuable and in your case was the support

i bet MVP is calculated with fantasy points

if it was fantasy than supports will get all the time

[76561198103775815]

going afk 7 mins after being in lane and farming a radiance while AFK jungling as the rest of your team wins the game for you because you watch too many BSJ and Jenkins/DOTA Alchemy videos isn't "MVP WORTHY PLAY" .

[Puddle]

I can get 2 maledict kills as witch doctor and get MVP over my carry with like 25 :)

[BossGalaga]

Originally posted by Puddle:

I can get 2 maledict kills as witch doctor and get MVP over my carry with like 25 :)

Witch Doctor is easy to get MVP with because you spend the entire game spamming all of your spells on a regular basis, plus the healing, so he typically has a pretty big impact. But you didn't get MVP for "2 maledict kills." I'm going to take a *wild guess* that you did more than cast maledict twice during the entire game.

[Zagryzaec]

In my times we needed for 3 players to vote for you to get the mvp. Then this title actually meant something.

But after some time useless low skill players started complaining that they never get mvp, because no one wants to vote, and that system needs to be automatical. Valve listened to them, and thats what we got.

Absolutely broken useless and meaningless system of mvp.

But with that we got a very important lesson. You cannot automatically assess performance of player in dota by any single game statistics. The only true indicator of skill is ability to win in the end. I hope this living failure example will close the question of changing mmr system on "individual performance" system.

The funniest moment of mvp was when my team really tilted me, when i was playing pos 5 warlock, so i from a certain point went afk jungle. Eventually when enemies still lost i was presented as mvp of the match, even though i only gave a good start, and the best player from both teams only got second runner up. And i was basically afk while that guy was struggling for the victory like crazy.

[Absche]

Valve was looking for a cheap reward (not granting anything of value) also for the players that do not win. They know that only half the players win and the others lose.

First they moved it into the hands of the players to nominate and elect a mvp as such a kind of reward. But it was too much effort for the players to do that. After 40 min of game play they refused to take another 30s for a post-game analysis to nominate the mvp.

Then Valve came up with the idea of an automated mvp system. And they thought, oh well, how to do it that not always those guys who have the most fun during the game anyway get some additional „reward“. And here we are, some acknowledgement also for those who are not cheered up in another way, neither by their team mates nor by the usual game statistics.

[BossGalaga]

Originally posted by Zagryzaec:

In my times we needed for 3 players to vote for you to get the mvp. Then this title actually meant something.

Having your own party or teammates vote for you doesn't really make it "actually mean something." You complain about the automated MVP system being biased or arbitrary but players are themselves biased and arbitrary.

Originally posted by Zagryzaec:

The funniest moment of mvp was when my team really tilted me, when i was playing pos 5 warlock, so i from a certain point went afk jungle.

That's disappointing. I thought you were better than that.

[izi]

Does MVPs statistic calculated to matchmaking too?