Why cant we noobs play at peace?

[for those who come after]

From game to game. We who are inexperienced in Dota are trashtalked for being a "noob"

True, we are. But come on. Who didnt start a game without having any difficulty at it. In every game including Dota, Cant we just learn it from time to time and have fun equally like the pros, the experienced, the weak and the noobs?

the game is fun but the people who undermines other players while playing it should face punishment. Courtesy and respect should be present even if it's just a game.

[D. Igne Natura Renovatur Integra]

They should returning the Limited Heroes mode.

[Darkeus]

Lol, don't you know? Most of these players came out the womb knowing how to play Dota 2 and the game was not even released yet.

Yeah, it is ridiculous. Just ignore them. Usually they are mad because they are not as good as they think they are anyway.

[Absche]

I already have some experience but I'm slow and fail often and so I know the term noob. Often the flamers are kids or unmature adults. They are rude and just don't know how to behave. They ruin the game that way and complain about getting reported afterwards. Ignore them and have more fun than they have. If they bother you too much have some bot games. They are much more friendly, every time they have a gl hf even in the opponent team.

[GlenRush]

Start off with bots first. Once you get the hang of it, play online.

[cyberpinoy]

It would depend in where you are playing, If you are noob and you know that, DON"T PLAY SOLO RANKED!!

DotA is more serious than a lot of people understand. A lot of players have a lot of personal goals and the 2 most important are WinRate (effected by both normal and Ranked modes) and MMR (only effected in Ranked).

YOUR gameplay has a lot to do with being part of the TEAM. If you pick a carry you are expoected to carry the team, if you pick support you are expected to support your carrys. If you fail at doing your role in Ranked games, well then even mediocre players get flamed.

I will help someone a lot more in normal mode than i am willing to do in Ranked gaming. I am in ranked to do 2 things. Raise my MMR and my winrate.

My advice start with bot matches, when you can do like me and play 10 bot matches in Unfair difficulty and win all 10 games consecutively, you are almost ready for P2P action. The next thing is find a group of friends who dont care about their MMR and WinRate much and are willing to risk a few losses to help you out.

Most important STOP PLAYING RANKED GAMES!!

[razdaz]

Go play 10v10, learn the game and come back. Nobody will flame you in 10v10 since nobody gives a ♥♥♥♥.

[Crimson 1]

Originally posted by razdaz:

Go play 10v10, learn the game and come back. Nobody will flame you in 10v10 since nobody gives a ♥♥♥♥.

Play overthrow?

[Ah Zong]

Before jumping into the pubs, at least play every hero in Dota 2 with bots once, means that you gonna play 112 games with bots.
In this case you'll get used to the game, and play better when you think it's ready to jump in pubs.

[AveryGee]

You should practice in bot match, I had 20 hours in dota before i ever played a pub match and i calibrated at 4k. If you did do this then the problem is valves matchmaking system. I recently have had more inexperienced players on a team. They played alot less games and gpm is generally worse on one team.

[Absche]

Don't Play ranked is the ultimate advice. Dota2 is played by an over ambituos community investing about 20h per week in "serious" gaming. And what you can get out of it? A winrate of 51% and a rise of 1% in a 4 digit number (if you are lucky). If you invest half of the time in Tennis or Soccer, you have a cabinet full of trophies. So be aware, you join a community with serious ambition and more complains than cheers. Computer nerds on adrenalin and testosteron, addicted and therefore not accountable for their behaviour. Sad but true.
Game on anyway but not ranked.

[MakCity2000]

Never play ranked if you know you are noob, people take that made way to serious! There are enough custom games in dota to play casual and learn nowadays so that you don't 'ruin' serious games.
Also, mute. Always mute.

[GR7ND]

Originally posted by TipsBackAlways:

Never play ranked if you know you are noob, people take that made way to serious! There are enough custom games in dota to play casual and learn nowadays so that you don't 'ruin' serious games.
Also, mute. Always mute.

Yeah just mute the stupid guy who calls you a noob

[Sovereign Star]

Because this is how F2P games look like, that mute button is useful, use it.

[R47M]

We noobs have to play w/ bots just to learn the basic about heroes and moves (LH/denies, mid, builds, etc), but the fun (and the real learning) only begins when you have a group of noobies friends to play with. On the other hand, there is no formal limitation to play solo in pubs, and the good manners, respect, and patience should be the most valued skills in the game -- more than the winrate, which is not 100% guaranteed even in matches without noobs. After all, someone is always a noob to someone.

[R47M]

Originally posted by ☣ cyberpinoy ☣:

It would depend in where you are playing, If you are noob and you know that, DON"T PLAY SOLO RANKED!!

DotA is more serious than a lot of people understand. A lot of players have a lot of personal goals and the 2 most important are WinRate (effected by both normal and Ranked modes) and MMR (only effected in Ranked).

YOUR gameplay has a lot to do with being part of the TEAM. If you pick a carry you are expoected to carry the team, if you pick support you are expected to support your carrys. If you fail at doing your role in Ranked games, well then even mediocre players get flamed.

I will help someone a lot more in normal mode than i am willing to do in Ranked gaming. I am in ranked to do 2 things. Raise my MMR and my winrate.

My advice start with bot matches, when you can do like me and play 10 bot matches in Unfair difficulty and win all 10 games consecutively, you are almost ready for P2P action. The next thing is find a group of friends who dont care about their MMR and WinRate much and are willing to risk a few losses to help you out.

Most important STOP PLAYING RANKED GAMES!!

I don't disagree with you in general, but things are not quite like that.

1 - There are few ways to win matches with unfair bots, and they don't teach anything but play in individualistic ways, without any concern w/ the team's movements. Furthermore, it's impossible to train the support role in these matches.

2 - The game was not meant to be taken seriously, who decides this is the player, usually motivated by the dream (or the illusion) of becoming a professional. Still, professionalism requires respect for others above all, because it's the basis of ethics in professional sports. In short: Dota is just a game, and its only goal is to provide fun.

3 - If your team has noobies, the opponent team has too, and the more skillful in everything, including in motivating the noobies to make a good match with you, will win.

In my opinion, there is no good reason to be rude to anyone. And to deal with adversity is part of a training that will definitely lead you to high winrates and MMR.