why i get feeder´s every games

[76561198090605842]

what can i do if i get feeder teammates every games
I lose 10 games i a row, so why valve doesn´t punish these people, i mean players who feed then get shadow amulet to stay afk
Valve need to fix that

[SiEgE]

Originally posted by bluebanana:

what can i do if i get feeder teammates every games

i mean players who feed then get shadow amulet to stay afk
Valve need to fix that

"feeding then getting shadow amulet" might mean 2 different things with 2 completely different contexts.

Blatant feeding as in killing off the courier to the enemy lane by ordering it to go to the enemy units/tower, then letting himself die there under towers with little to no fight back should be reported asap, no excuses or doubts. Those games will be marked by OW and the griefer will be banned and sent to low behaviour score games.

Everything else that is not blatant feeding, should be rated by the "badness" of the play. Just playing bad for whatever not griefing reason is not a reason to start a report war. Same for using SA, since you haven't specified, at which point he bought and used it, I can't tell if you should or not report the person for buying the item.

[BossGalaga]

Originally posted by bluebanana:

what can i do if i get feeder teammates every games
I lose 10 games i a row, so why valve doesn´t punish these people, i mean players who feed then get shadow amulet to stay afk
Valve need to fix that

If a player is intentionally AFKing with shadow amulet, Overwatch report them during the match, by opening the player scoreboard (default tab) and clicking on the red flag next to their name.

You complain about feeders and "losing 10 games in a row" but in your last match, you fed more than anyone else on your team. Remember, when you point a finger at someone, 3 fingers point back at yourself. Everyone has bad games, right? You can't make your teammates play better, but you can work on improving your own gameplay and you can also party up with other players if you don't like the teammates that you're getting in solo pubs.

[76561198090605842]

Originally posted by BossGalaga:

Originally posted by bluebanana:

what can i do if i get feeder teammates every games
I lose 10 games i a row, so why valve doesn´t punish these people, i mean players who feed then get shadow amulet to stay afk
Valve need to fix that

If a player is intentionally AFKing with shadow amulet, Overwatch report them during the match, by opening the player scoreboard (default tab) and clicking on the red flag next to their name.

You complain about feeders and "losing 10 games in a row" but in your last match, you fed more than anyone else on your team. Remember, when you point a finger at someone, 3 fingers point back at yourself. Everyone has bad games, right? You can't make your teammates play better, but you can work on improving your own gameplay and you can also party up with other players if you don't like the teammates that you're getting in solo pubs.

it was not intentional I were savin my teammates, I mean players who do it intentional then goes afk

[奇蹟]

This usually happens after you've won 10 in a row. Unfortunately, it happens a lot to me, it's just another faulty valve system, when looking for matches. According to valve, if you win 10 in a row you are 100% smurf or acc booster, something like that. In other words, if you simply play the games well, and are lucky to have a good team and win every game, you can receive this punishment. Yeah, it's a very unfair valve system. This discourages you to continue playing, when Valve puts you in these matches with 4 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ versus the good team, the game ends before 20, and it's very unpleasant, not even a desire to find again.

[奇蹟]

I've been complaining about this for months and there are still people who believe that Valve doesn't do these dirty tricks.

[奇蹟]

Guys, this only happens with those who find alone, my tip is to find a team. Find a team and only play in party of 5. Tip of those who want your good!!! Unfortunately, Valve's matchmaker is very flawed and unfair to those who find alone. So if you can have a team, you will avoid all these unfair problems that happen to someone who finds alone.
I have some friends who still play, but they're older, they work, they have kids, they're rarely online to play. So I end up finind alone, and I suffer, I go through all these problems =p

[SiEgE]

Originally posted by Gafowi:

I've been complaining about this for months and there are still people who believe that Valve doesn't do these dirty tricks.

Cause you're obviously using "dirty tricks" as a groundless claim. You have no statistics.
For such an algorithm to exist, there should be a provable pattern. "losing once every 10 successful games" is more believable to be a coincidence. Bet you don't have a clear 10-1-10-1-10-1 match history.
You can also see "ears" of the algorithm by things it manipulates with. How exactly the games are "intentionally ruined"? Are you placed in games where your team has less MMR than the enemy? Are you placed with people of lower Behaviour Score? What exactly is being manipulated there?
The most ridiculous claims I usually see is that Dota is somehow reading minds of people of your bracket and your behaviour score level. It sees if there is someone who wants to ruin a game today, so it searches for a guy with 10 winstreaks and puts that guy in his team.. Come on, that is just silly.

1. In order to win, you need to make the enemy team lose. When the enemy team wins, you cannot have a victory, too.
2. Ruiners exist even on high MMR games. Eternal Envy as an example. He breaks his items and feeds mid. If you think people are griefing - well, guess what, they're learning from the best.

[Jesse Pinkman]

if u win 10, then lose 10, haha not balanced matchs

[76561198090605842]

Originally posted by Gafowi:

Guys, this only happens with those who find alone, my tip is to find a team. Find a team and only play in party of 5. Tip of those who want your good!!! Unfortunately, Valve's matchmaker is very flawed and unfair to those who find alone. So if you can have a team, you will avoid all these unfair problems that happen to someone who finds alone.
I have some friends who still play, but they're older, they work, they have kids, they're rarely online to play. So I end up finind alone, and I suffer, I go through all these problems =p

wooo Valve need to fix that

[General Eclectic]

Well the problem is that you have a low BS score, low enough that you are getting intentional feeders in so many matches. But I have noticed that if you start to win awhile, the game places you against better players and it makes your team seem more noob, almost as if you were climbing the mmr ladder or something. Strange, must be forced 50/50...

[76561199088926083]

Originally posted by Gafowi:

This usually happens after you've won 10 in a row. Unfortunately, it happens a lot to me, it's just another faulty valve system, when looking for matches. According to valve, if you win 10 in a row you are 100% smurf or acc booster, something like that. In other words, if you simply play the games well, and are lucky to have a good team and win every game, you can receive this punishment. Yeah, it's a very unfair valve system. This discourages you to continue playing, when Valve puts you in these matches with 4 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ versus the good team, the game ends before 20, and it's very unpleasant, not even a desire to find again.

true fact the system is fully rigged and everbody knows it by now the world average 50% winrate stands true even the best of the best have under 60% winrate it`s simply the algorythm and it s killing the game lowers the player base because people are driven in series of unbalanced matches which lead to miserable games to the point of absurdity where broken pepegas spind mindlessly on the map

[Zockolade]

We are now at a point were Dota 2 becomes sad. But hey it is a free game and as a player of a free game you deserve nothing even if you sign up for a subscription.

[BossGalaga]

Originally posted by out of the blue ☚:

Originally posted by Gafowi:

This usually happens after you've won 10 in a row. Unfortunately, it happens a lot to me, it's just another faulty valve system, when looking for matches. According to valve, if you win 10 in a row you are 100% smurf or acc booster, something like that. In other words, if you simply play the games well, and are lucky to have a good team and win every game, you can receive this punishment. Yeah, it's a very unfair valve system. This discourages you to continue playing, when Valve puts you in these matches with 4 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ versus the good team, the game ends before 20, and it's very unpleasant, not even a desire to find again.

true fact the system is fully rigged and everbody knows it by now the world average 50% winrate stands true even the best of the best have under 60% winrate it`s simply the algorythm and it s killing the game lowers the player base because people are driven in series of unbalanced matches which lead to miserable games to the point of absurdity where broken pepegas spind mindlessly on the map

I'm an extremely average player and I have a 57% winrate in ranked, that's nearly 60% and you claim that only "the best of the best" have such a winrate. (You misworded it btw, re-read your post) If smurfs can climb because their skill is higher than their actual mmr, and you believe that you should have higher mmr, then you're essentially smurfing as well...so why can't you climb like a smurf? If you can't, then according to your own logic, that must be because you're generally in the mmr bracket that you belong in.

[Der Oberunterdrücker]

The problem is that they want to teach us. That is the first mistake they make because this is just a game. I want to have fun. People say to me you deserve to lose. And what that means You also lose we are team.... or not. I cant the understand the stupiendes of Dota 2 teamplay because there is no. Maybe Valve should update the AI or loking at there empoyed to understand that people not happy with there understanding of game play. Bye the way teaching is smurfing the same think.

[Tech.Noir]

Originally posted by SiEgE:

Originally posted by Gafowi:

I've been complaining about this for months and there are still people who believe that Valve doesn't do these dirty tricks.

Cause you're obviously using "dirty tricks" as a groundless claim. You have no statistics.
For such an algorithm to exist, there should be a provable pattern. "losing once every 10 successful games" is more believable to be a coincidence. Bet you don't have a clear 10-1-10-1-10-1 match history.
You can also see "ears" of the algorithm by things it manipulates with. How exactly the games are "intentionally ruined"? Are you placed in games where your team has less MMR than the enemy? Are you placed with people of lower Behaviour Score? What exactly is being manipulated there?
The most ridiculous claims I usually see is that Dota is somehow reading minds of people of your bracket and your behaviour score level. It sees if there is someone who wants to ruin a game today, so it searches for a guy with 10 winstreaks and puts that guy in his team.. Come on, that is just silly.

1. In order to win, you need to make the enemy team lose. When the enemy team wins, you cannot have a victory, too.
2. Ruiners exist even on high MMR games. Eternal Envy as an example. He breaks his items and feeds mid. If you think people are griefing - well, guess what, they're learning from the best.

of course there is the clear 10 - 1 - 10 pattern, if it would be so easy "readable" everybody would straight up quit the game.
and still there are a lot of different very suspicious patterns all over the profiles.
also people like you who argue against it froget an important point. often its not the lose itself, its the "way" you lose. its those games where you know fro min 0 that its a lose, either due to people refusing to make a normal pick or straight up insult each other and go double mid.
there is no competition in those games, they are pure stomps with scores like 34 - 5 in about 15-20 minutes. even if you stay alie in those games with 0 deaths, you will still find yourself at a 0% winchance, no matter how well you do.