Diff in dota and league

[R_ac3R]

I had to take a break from dota cause i had wifi probs and dint want to get cooldows on my dota account , so i played league with an open mind
1: the ui of league absolutely sucks , its glitchy and when i try to queue for a match i forget to press find game , cause it brings me to a party lobby when i press play
2: theres no tp scrolls which is such a hassle leaving ur lane if ur mid cause a whole round of creeps are wasted especially if you solo queue and ur team doesnt have comms
3: you need to buy heros , and some hero skins are payto win cause the abilites animations are different and confuses other players
4: this is a total turndown cause if ur a new player you cant click on a enemy and see what their skills are unlike dota
5: you literally need to go to a 3rd party website to see guides for heros and "runes"
6: idk why ppl say league has better graphics when its so hard to see heros on the game , they look so tiny and its even more confusing to remember how heros look like when they have skins
7: very less items , late game i seem to have full inventory maxed items and 6k gold being not used (not sure if theres something i can do with it yet)
8: anime girl as heros are weird dota heros feel like they have lore in them
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9: long ass loading screen where you cant do anything cause other players have bad pc which slows all the other 9 players
10: you cant alt tab and close league when its on loading screen
11: the letters in the client look compactlikethis

There might be more and ill update it if i learn other stuff , but for now my opinion about league is that its overhyped cause of twitch streamers , and i only see myself playing it if dota dies , people say dota is harder thats why it has less players but thats bs , i see lol players sweating hard just as dota players , dota 2 has updated alot since dota and league got popular just cause it came before dota 2 and looked like a refined dota 1

[Vinz]

1)I play LoL with friends and i never got glitches or something..Also when the game is ready it just bring automaticly up and i have just to press "accept"..I think it's some issue of your PC..
The client is mediocre because Riot choosed to keep it like this.. Why?The reason is simple, Riot know that a big % of his players have bad PC..So with this way they have no problem in playing it..Riot has no money problem in create a Client like the one of Dota 2..

2)Unless you are dying, why you should tp out when there are creeps coming to your tower?That is farm, and is your own fault if you choosed to tp out and leave them..

3)"Paying skin that change spells and confuse the players"?That is the most idiotic thing of this thread, you made me laugh..But anyway i have say that you're wrong because skins doesn't make you win..
And about the champions, yes they are called champions not heroes, you don't have to pay for get them, you can simply play..Every level you get a chest of a random champion that you can recicle if you don't want it and earn blue essence, then with blue essence you can get what you want..Ofcourse you don't know it, because you like to talk without know anything..

4)You can check what spells have the champions in the collection section where there the champions that you have and not..Also you can check enemy spells even in spectate games..

5)So what's the problem with a google page for checking the runes?It's just for the first times then later you don't need anymore..You're just too lazy..

6)Where did you readed people claiming that LoL graphic is better then Dota?And anyway you shouldn't judge a game from his graphic..

7)There are potions that gives you bonus if you want to use those money, 500g every potion..

8)Anime heroes?You're probaly talking about Ahri for sure..Expect for the fact that isn't an anime but a race called Vastaya..

[Zagryzaec]

1) it is glitchy and buggy and its a common knowledge amoung people playing lol, as well as dota bieng still beta.
2) to spend money on bfs? There is no courier in lol. And no tp to react to other lanes too, that make this game way more shallow and tedious
3) wait a champion? When i was leveling up all i got was champion shards. Did they changed it and now give you straight up hero every level?
4) you need to know spell and ability of the champion in the game you met him. I useed league assistant on mobile but along with no vc its very hindersome
5) shouldnt even have this in game. Better balanced their champions.
The runes only exists so you spend real money more rube pages since you need 20 heroes to get to ranked but only get like 2-3 pages of runes. Not counting basic useless pages. Foesnt even save your spells properly. Here comes adc miss fortune with her powerful smite and exhaust.
6) people often claim lol is better in something. But i like some things in lol design, like creep spawns and free taunts. Recall is also often pretty neet.
7) how does anyone survive up to this point since people usually sur way before.
8) he speak about overall design of all heroes, not that it should be used as an insult.

[🐾]

I agree, League of Legends does have a lot of problems. I thought Deans counter arguments were a little weak.

[Duchess Minty]

Originally posted by Dean Ambrose:

The client is mediocre because Riot choosed to keep it like this.. Why?The reason is simple, Riot know that a big % of his players have bad PC..So with this way they have no problem in playing it..Riot has no money problem in create a Client like the one of Dota 2..

You don't have to choose between having a decent client and making it accessible to people with potato tier computers, you can do both at the same time.

[Mooster Booster]

so let's get this over with Dean.

1. The league client is a mess. It has been for ages. It's next to non-working and we all know it. There has been documented issues with the client for years and it's nothing new. So using the "many people potato pc, riot must have ♥♥♥♥ client" statement is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

2. League punishes you so much if you miss creeps early due to the immense snowball effect League has. one or two waves of minions missed is just gonna make your life hell in lane cause ooga booga your opponent is dealing double your dmg now. The recall and walk back to lane is so tedious and boring and removes you from the action constantly. Getting pushed out or lost a trade? Yeah have fun walking back and then TP, but hey it's on a 300sec cd so have fun if you fail another trade.

3. Some skins in League are pay to win. Some skins are literally illegal to use by pro players due to the advantages they give ingame with the VFXs. Also some of the skins makes champions completly unrecognizeable due to the general shape of the hero is nolonger the same. So another one of your statements that are false and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Let's continue shall we?

3,5. Champions takes ages and they are required to buy. Either with real money or by BE (blue essence). No mather the payment you still buy them. And if you don't want to spend the real money have fun grinding. Want to know how long it takes to unlock every champion if you play reguarly? HAHA 3 YEARS. Want to try that champion cause it looks cool and fun? To bad, buy it for 6300BE or for 10$ or wait until it's on free rotation. Sucks to suck kid.

4. The only way you can check enemy spells or ally spells for that matter is to either use 3rd party software such as Overwolf or some online site. OR die to see what just dealt 1000 true damage in a split second. Other then that there is NO WAY you can check enemy spells ingame or on the move. So if you're new you have no way to figure out what a character does without proper preperation on EVERY SINGLE CHAMPION. whice btw there is around 150 of.

5. I have no real comment of runes or your statement about it except that you also require a 3rd party software or an online site to see for guides or recommended runes. If you want premade runes from RIOT, hah! they suck and do nothing to guide you.

6. People on both parts of the spectrum claim the other game is better or worse cause they want to feel good. Never seen it? Never been to twitter or reddit then huih? It's a constant battle between the 2 games and this will most likely never change.

7. Yeah have fun TRYING to reach over 30 minutes in a game. cause your midlaner fed and no longer wants to play so he'll just spam "ff 15" for 10 minutes and has already given up. Isn't it just fun when you're having a good game but the rest of your team wants it to end early without giving it a fair chance?

8. Please man. take a solid look at the newest 20-30 champions and tell me they don't take heavy inspiration from the japanease "good looking generic male/female", This has also been a occuring theme within the league community that the recent champions all look the same and that is a claim that you're either trying to deffend or are just in denial.

Want this to continue just send a message and we can have this discussion for aaaaaages.
And don't hit me with the "comment cause you don't know". cause hey I played league for 6 years before I decided to quit cause the game was ♥♥♥♥ and went down a bad direction.

[Gopher]

Okay I'm the reverse, I played league for 10 years since launch! I recently switched to DOTA 2 and here's my reverse opinion -

League -

1. Easy to play. There's not nearly as much stuff to remember and do throughout the game, and only one support and he's not required to do all the warding (to an extent) and can actually play the game and buy items and have fun!

2. League is much more group friendly because of the above. I find in Dota 2 there's a lot more a teammate can do to mess up a game and cause a loss. In league it's either you fed your lane or not, but it doesn't really come down to things like pulling and blocking camps, dewarding/warding, etc as much as DOTA 2 does. Like itemization can literally win or break a game as well in DOTA 2.

3. League matches typically don't run past 25-35 minutes. DOTA 2 can go for hours.

4. League games are a lot less "farm until late game" boring ass DOTA 2 games. So many DOTA 2 games I know we're going to win because my team is farming well, but they don't ever stop farming and we lose because they don't know how to group and end which brings me to the next topic

5. In league, people know how to push advantages and end game even at low elo. DOTA2 can literally drag on because your carries just want their 5-6 full item builds.

6. No BKB an item literally every champ builds that's a core, making for boring build paths every game. No 15 sec cd blink daggers.

7. Balance. This is a controversial one, but I believe league is significantly more balanced overall than DOTA 2. DOTA 2 is more rock paper scissor in that certain match ups just literally ♥♥♥♥ on the enemy hero they're against. This leads to counters, something that league doesn't really have (it does to some extent when there is an op hero like Irelia, but not nearly as bad)

8. There's no items that make you go invis, and you don't have to buy things like dust making the game much more about getting straight to the brawling. There are a couple champs that can go invis in their kit, but overall much less than DOTA 2.

don't get me wrong I enjoy DOTA 2 at times but I find it to be incredibly boring the majority of the time. Losing games especially are boring as it means your team just needs to play safe and farm for another 20 minutes, while in league it's about fighting and making plays.

[ixthid the desolate]

Bottom line is each person enjoys games differently so anyone can play whatever they want without having to prove another game is worse.

Most points here are exaggerated in both sides, but really it comes down to personal preference.

Riot designed the game that way for profit, to make money when people have to buy champions, skins etc. Dota instead is more complex and focused on introducing free material to boost game, in hopes that people will stick and eventually spend money on battle pass or something.

Interesting fact - lol makes 5x the money dota makes. Valve makes more than 2x the money riot makes, dota is only 10% of their income

roughly.

[R_ac3R]

Originally posted by Dean Ambrose:

1)I play LoL with friends and i never got glitches or something..Also when the game is ready it just bring automaticly up and i have just to press "accept"..I think it's some issue of your PC..
The client is mediocre because Riot choosed to keep it like this.. Why?The reason is simple, Riot know that a big % of his players have bad PC..So with this way they have no problem in playing it..Riot has no money problem in create a Client like the one of Dota 2..

2)Unless you are dying, why you should tp out when there are creeps coming to your tower?That is farm, and is your own fault if you choosed to tp out and leave them..

3)"Paying skin that change spells and confuse the players"?That is the most idiotic thing of this thread, you made me laugh..But anyway i have say that you're wrong because skins doesn't make you win..
And about the champions, yes they are called champions not heroes, you don't have to pay for get them, you can simply play..Every level you get a chest of a random champion that you can recicle if you don't want it and earn blue essence, then with blue essence you can get what you want..Ofcourse you don't know it, because you like to talk without know anything..

4)You can check what spells have the champions in the collection section where there the champions that you have and not..Also you can check enemy spells even in spectate games..

5)So what's the problem with a google page for checking the runes?It's just for the first times then later you don't need anymore..You're just too lazy..

6)Where did you readed people claiming that LoL graphic is better then Dota?And anyway you shouldn't judge a game from his graphic..

7)There are potions that gives you bonus if you want to use those money, 500g every potion..

8)Anime heroes?You're probaly talking about Ahri for sure..Expect for the fact that isn't an anime but a race called Vastaya..

1:i did not mean literally glitchy but the icons are so small you have to double check if you are in the right page , also if the ui is trash for bad pc players why does the loading screen take forever to load cause of other players
2: when ur mid and kill someone the other guy gets to go back base and get items while im still stuck with nothing , it feels like the person dying is getting rewarded
4: that is not newb friendly , i need to know enemy players spells in realtime in match , i cant pull up my mobile in the middle of the game and open a 3rd party
7: but you gotta keep a whole slot empty just for potions while i could be buying a 3k with item instead
8: yeah lol literally has female characters with so much skin feels like some mobile game

[R_ac3R]

Originally posted by Sweaty Gopher:

Originally posted by Xjason:

dota = manchildren
lol = children

Nah, more like this:

DOTA 2 = sweat lords who want to no life a game
LoL = casual ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ who want to yell at their friends and lose them because they're terrible at their role

Just cause dota is longer doesnt mean they are no lifing a game , lol players arent casual either lmfao strawman argument

[R_ac3R]

Originally posted by ixthid:

Bottom line is each person enjoys games differently so anyone can play whatever they want without having to prove another game is worse.

Most points here are exaggerated in both sides, but really it comes down to personal preference.

Riot designed the game that way for profit, to make money when people have to buy champions, skins etc. Dota instead is more complex and focused on introducing free material to boost game, in hopes that people will stick and eventually spend money on battle pass or something.

Interesting fact - lol makes 5x the money dota makes. Valve makes more than 2x the money riot makes, dota is only 10% of their income

roughly.

Im just giving my honest opinion without exaggeration i played league like i tried to like it (played for 100 hours and these problems just keep getting on my face) , it can help any dota players trying league knowing some features doesnt actually exist

[con cactus]

To an extent I agree with some of your points. However, I play both and I don't really have a problem with League's UI. It's easy to see and access so I don't really know what the problem is for you. For your 2nd point, I disagree. Even if you kill the mid laner the opponent loses so much. You can gain plates, uncontested cs and exp and it does punish the enemy dying because you can shove your wave into the tower which helps you get plates faster plus it makes the enemy lose exp and gold. By the time you take the plate and shove the wave, recall and purchase your items. You'll make it back to your lane where the wave is in your favor and putting the enemy in a difficult spot, making him vulnerable to jungler ganks. I agree though. I don't like buying champs and its kind of a money grab from Riot but it kinda gives an incentive to grind the game to unlock new champions to play.

[Vinz]

Originally posted by R_ac3R gamdom.com:

7: but you gotta keep a whole slot empty just for potions while i could be buying a 3k with item instead

You don't need a slot for use them, they automaticly active after you buy them..

[R_ac3R]

Originally posted by uduck:

To an extent I agree with some of your points. However, I play both and I don't really have a problem with League's UI. It's easy to see and access so I don't really know what the problem is for you. For your 2nd point, I disagree. Even if you kill the mid laner the opponent loses so much. You can gain plates, uncontested cs and exp and it does punish the enemy dying because you can shove your wave into the tower which helps you get plates faster plus it makes the enemy lose exp and gold. By the time you take the plate and shove the wave, recall and purchase your items. You'll make it back to your lane where the wave is in your favor and putting the enemy in a difficult spot, making him vulnerable to jungler ganks. I agree though. I don't like buying champs and its kind of a money grab from Riot but it kinda gives an incentive to grind the game to unlock new champions to play.

Well i do try to shove the wave but the respawn time i think will only make them miss minimum half wave , and max a full wave , so before it reaches the tower (with like 4 ally minions left) they are already back with better items , but for this i maybe gotta play more so im not sure yet

[R_ac3R]

Originally posted by Dean Ambrose:

Originally posted by R_ac3R gamdom.com:

7: but you gotta keep a whole slot empty just for potions while i could be buying a 3k with item instead

You don't need a slot for use them, they automaticly active after you buy them..

okay thats good to know i knew there had to be something with the extra gold

[con cactus]

Originally posted by R_ac3R gamdom.com:

Originally posted by uduck:

To an extent I agree with some of your points. However, I play both and I don't really have a problem with League's UI. It's easy to see and access so I don't really know what the problem is for you. For your 2nd point, I disagree. Even if you kill the mid laner the opponent loses so much. You can gain plates, uncontested cs and exp and it does punish the enemy dying because you can shove your wave into the tower which helps you get plates faster plus it makes the enemy lose exp and gold. By the time you take the plate and shove the wave, recall and purchase your items. You'll make it back to your lane where the wave is in your favor and putting the enemy in a difficult spot, making him vulnerable to jungler ganks. I agree though. I don't like buying champs and its kind of a money grab from Riot but it kinda gives an incentive to grind the game to unlock new champions to play.

Well i do try to shove the wave but the respawn time i think will only make them miss minimum half wave , and max a full wave , so before it reaches the tower (with like 4 ally minions left) they are already back with better items , but for this i maybe gotta play more so im not sure yet

Even if they miss half/full wave you're still in a gold/item advantage when you return to your lane. Plus you have jungler pressure if your jungler is half decent. I get it though I struggled when I first played league but I play both casually now. Both game have their differences which is why I think I enjoy both games. Good to change it up then and there. Since you're used to Dota I guess the knowledge and mechanics of League are a bit different and its difficult to adjust. But you're right, with more playtime you learn more.