Silver Edge doesnt break Tiny passive ability

[Bash]

I just tried it. Silver Edge doesnt disable Tinys armor and attack bonus is that normal?

[The Naked Man]

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you know what? That's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid design, PA ulti gets disabled, bristle ulti gets disabled, every other "passive" ultimate gets disabled?

That's like saying break should disable meepo's divided we stand or break disabling WK's reincarnation. They don't.

Big difference but yeah you are right, those passives don't get cancelled but I would say its different. They don't get 24+ armor and 110+dmg for a 2000 gold tradeoff(hyperstrone),

20 mins into the game the average Tiny will have 3k+hp, for 9k gold(super underfarmed if he doesn't have more, with his crazy farm potential most of the time it will be much harder) your tiny will be critting almost 1k, have 3k hp, 24+ armor, and be able to instakill most cores, he just have to get near them, silver edge bambam, ava+toss, dead.

[Water Ｖａｐｏｒ Merchant]

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Its not a passive - its an active skill that activates once to change his characteristics. Its like eating a tome of knowledge.

Also while breaking passives silver edge doesnt disable its given effect. If troll don't get more fervor stacks he still have those he landed. If pudge cant aquire new flesh stacks he keeps hp and stacks he aquired with passive.

You cant disable tinis passive because it wasnt active at the moment of disabling in the first place.

But how is that any different from Breaking PA's crit chance? She gains the crit chance in the exact same way, yet it is still taken from her when Break is applied. Same for Blur. How is it any different that PA's evasion and crit chance are granted at the moment of level up as Tiny's armor and attack speed reduction at level up?

[MVP_lCE™]

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you know what? That's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid design, PA ulti gets disabled, bristle ulti gets disabled, every other "passive" ultimate gets disabled? Wtf, good find bro, I have been thinking about this for a while

Just tried it myself, jesus, that's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

Yea, lol. How come Silver Edge can break PA's ultimate but it can't break Tiny's ultimate? Totally unfair and bad design. -.-''

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I just tried it. Silver Edge doesnt disable Tinys armor and attack bonus is that normal?

you cant break the skill that cant be dispelled
if silver edge break tiny passive then WK ult also canceled if you break him
its the most stupid comment i ever seen

FYI, there is no information or description in the game saying that Tiny's Grow cannot be dispelled. If PA's ultimate doesn't has such information like Tiny's Grow, then why? -.-''

Opprinnelig skrevet av Bash:

I just tried it. Silver Edge doesnt disable Tinys armor and attack bonus is that normal?

I guess I know why PSG.LGD lose to Team Spirit already. Because any who using broken stuff or design don't deserve the right to win or victory, maybe? ^^''

Enchantress' ultimate says ultimate dispellable? Yes.
Tiny's? No information for that. PA's? Same as Tiny. Why PA's ultimate can be dispelled? -.-''weird, right? Another weird thing I found is Wraith King's ultimate (description says can be dispelled but when tested it cannot). Link: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2635281581

[BossGalaga]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Bash:

Silver Edge doesnt break Tiny passive ability

Correct, Tiny's passive cannot be broken, nor should it be.

[MVP_lCE™]

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Opprinnelig skrevet av Bash:

Silver Edge doesnt break Tiny passive ability

Correct, Tiny's passive cannot be broken, nor should it be.

Then, why PA's ultimate passive can be disabled? In fact, both heroes have similar skill descriptions where both never speak about dispellable or not like other heroes such as Enchantress, Wraith King, etc? If you test it on Enchantress where her ultimate says yes, then her ultimate can be dispelled. Meanwhile, Wraith King's ultimate cannot be dispelled although his ultimate says yes also? Why?