What if tree has different grades?

[MVP_lCE™]

In Dota 2, there are many trees with different sizes. Well, I will assume the size of tree as the grades of tree where small tree means lower grade and big tree means higher grade.

Speaking about the tango, if a hero uses a tango to consume a small tree, then he will recover small amount of hp. The bigger tree consumed by him, then the bigger amount of hp he will recover with. Don't you guys think it's more fun to have more different feelings especially with the surrounding that felt different?

Regarding the quelling blade also. When a hero is cutting the tree by using that blade, usually he can make it instantly. To me, that's like not very logic. What if the size of tree to affect the time in cutting the tree also? Will still requires a short duration to cut off a small tree and much longer duration to cut off bigger tree. Else, it's not fair for Treant already when players always can simply instantly cut off his eyes on trees. For this, Treant must be nerfed to has limit of the eyes of trees also. If you want to instantly cut a tree, then you will need a bigger item such as Battlefury. Sometimes I can see player instantly cut a tree when MK is on the tree and that's quite unfair as MK can't even has chance to escape. There are still many can be spoke about the relation that could be affected by grades of trees. But I just spoke some although I am not the fan of that two heroes.

Thought?

[Dr.VV01f]

game is already hard i don't think thats a good idea

[majzerofive]

Dota 2 isn't about trees and cutting them. Your goal is to win the game, perhaps by using your surroundings like trees to change the outcome of a battle/game. How those surroundings look like, biggersmallerlessvisible doesn't really matter. Also, it is a nightmare for game devs to implement something so useless into the game.

Originally posted by Dr.VV01f:

game is already hard i don't think thats a good idea

It is a nice joke tho, 'hard' and 'dota 2' together.

[Nanomashines SOn]

about logic: eating trees?
cutting them to run away?

[RadCon One]

Originally posted by majzerofive:

It is a nice joke tho, 'hard' and 'dota 2' together.

Dota 2 is one of the harder MOBAs out there, and definitely more-so than LOL, the only one which has a bigger player-base. Once you have a countless number of matches and have played for hundreds or thousands of hours it is easier then, but to a newcomer DOTA is a daunting beast to tackle. There are 121 heroes and they are by no means carbon copies of one another, and all of them have AT LEAST 4 skills to level and use, 8 talents to choose between as you level, with only 4 being available initially, more than 200 items to buy, of which you can only use 6, and more than 50 neutral items that can randomly drop in any given match, of which you can only carry 1. The positions/roles of each hero are also much more impactful and set than in some other MOBAs, and DOTA adds denying your own creeps and heroes to the mix making things even harder.

[Dark Sun Gwyndolin]

File this one in the "Complexity does not equal depth" bucket.

[zZzooey.exe]

what if we could convert our hero into peon from warcraft and farm all the trees, accumulating resources to build a new backup ancient

[Zagryzaec]

There are 2107 trees. Each one will be have to analised and rebalanced with size. Two much work, that will not be used.

We already have this mechanic where some trees give twice as much tango regen.

[Ann☆ﾟ.*･｡]

- take some harrassment
- walk to a dire tree, not too big nor too small
- uses tango
- *munch**munch*
- "..ugh, i don't feel so good.."
- realise that you just ate a poisonous tree
- dies to f*cking tree
are you telling me i have to study plants to play dota?

[MVP_lCE™]

Originally posted by Dr.VV01f:

game is already hard i don't think thats a good idea

Dota 2 isn't a hard. What made you think Dota 2 is hard? You see? You simply commented without explain like some people. Well, if that's just your thought, then I can accept it. But at least give some good quality thought with supportive statements behind.

[MVP_lCE™]

Originally posted by Entropy:

Originally posted by majzerofive:

It is a nice joke tho, 'hard' and 'dota 2' together.

Dota 2 is one of the harder MOBAs out there, and definitely more-so than LOL, the only one which has a bigger player-base. Once you have a countless number of matches and have played for hundreds or thousands of hours it is easier then, but to a newcomer DOTA is a daunting beast to tackle. There are 121 heroes and they are by no means carbon copies of one another, and all of them have AT LEAST 4 skills to level and use, 8 talents to choose between as you level, with only 4 being available initially, more than 200 items to buy, of which you can only use 6, and more than 50 neutral items that can randomly drop in any given match, of which you can only carry 1. The positions/roles of each hero are also much more impactful and set than in some other MOBAs, and DOTA adds denying your own creeps and heroes to the mix making things even harder.

Well said. Thanks.

[[GRVTS]Fat Bastard]

Game already has highgrade trees. Buy an iron branch and enjoy your quality meal.

[MVP_lCE™]

Originally posted by GRVTSFat Bastard:

Game already has highgrade trees. Buy an iron branch and enjoy your quality meal.

Well said too. I already knew that. But 50 gold is like a cost to player. What I was trying to point out is, allow players to have more challenging situation with cheaper regeneration.

[MVP_lCE™]

Originally posted by Venti:

File this one in the "Complexity does not equal depth" bucket.

Sorry, I don't get what you meant.

[Zagryzaec]

Originally posted by 恩恩_UDSD:

Originally posted by GRVTSFat Bastard:

Game already has highgrade trees. Buy an iron branch and enjoy your quality meal.

Well said too. I already knew that. But 50 gold is like a cost to player. What I was trying to point out is, allow players to have more challenging situation with cheaper regeneration.

Regeneration is balanced in dota. You want free tasty trees - you pick furion and use sprouts.

[MVP_lCE™]

Originally posted by sad kid:

about logic: eating trees?
cutting them to run away?

Nobody said to go too logic but if you have mind to think properly, at least you should balance out some situations for certain logicness for other fairness. If you really want go for full real logic, then why don't make Dota 2 has no magic spells as such things never exist? I was just speaking for something to be more making sense and challenging. You still can't understand, then you go ahead with the simplicity and don't complain in forum next time. Anytime I see people complain their heroes get unfair results or outputs by opponents, I am going to raise this and stomp him back already.